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Bitcoin is rocketing higher, topping $35,000 for the first time since May 2022. It's up 20% over the past five days.




we will take some profits off the table this weekend , maybe , and convert to precious metals in the hand

wash , rinse , repeat
 
The money quote:
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"Options worth $4.5 billion will expire on Friday. That's a particularly high value of which an uncommon percentage is set to expire in the money (ITM) due to the recent market move potentially prompting some market action," Strijers said.
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Ah... But which direction?
 


Moonpay is a pretty big crypto onramp for folks using cold storage wallets (ie. they are a decent sized fish). It will be interesting to see what develops from their partnership.
 

 
Solana (SOL) is on a tear over the last few days.
 

 


I wasn't aware of the accounting rules change. Interesting.
 
Nov 3 (Reuters) - The cryptocurrency market is starting to bounce back a year after the collapse of crypto exchange FTX and other big players in 2022 crushed prices, tarnished the industry and prompted a regulatory crackdown.

A jury in New York on Thursday found Sam Bankman-Fried (SBF), the former CEO of FTX, guilty of defrauding FTX's customers prior to its abrupt collapse in November 2022. He had pleaded not guilty and said that while he mismanaged the company, he did not commit fraud.

 
Solana (SOL) is on a tear over the last few days.



Solana is currently trading at around $40. $3,200 would be an 80x increase (over ~6 years). Seems like crystal ball craziness, but that's how the crypto markets roll I guess.
 
Didn't know if here or America's War on Crypto thread so.................

 
Didn't know if here or America's War on Crypto thread so.........

This thread is the best fit. The SEC, CFTC, FTC, DOJ, etc. efforts to prosecute individuals for fraud are not germane to the War on Crypto thread which is focused on government efforts to chill/choke/kill crypto as an industry.
 
LONDON, Nov 6 (Reuters) - The Bank of England told lenders on Monday that they must avoid any risk that customers might confuse new forms of e-money like 'stablecoins' with standard deposits which are guaranteed against bank failures.

 
60k transfers per second x 60 seconds/minute x 60 minutes/hour x 24 hours = 5,184,000 transfers/day

For context, the ACH bank transfer system was processing 2.4 million transactions a day in 2021.

 


I could have had a V8 bought more LINK.
 
NEW YORK, Nov 9 (Reuters) - Crypto lender Celsius Network received U.S. bankruptcy court approval for a restructuring plan that will return cryptocurrency to customers and create a new company owned by Celsius creditors.

U.S. Bankruptcy Judge Martin Glenn in Manhattan signed off on the restructuring in an order published on Thursday. The reorganized business will be managed by Fahrenheit LLC, a consortium that includes hedge fund Arrington Capital, and it will focus on mining new bitcoin and earning "staking" fees by validating blockchain transactions.

 
The surging price of bitcoin (BTC) has pushed the asset’s largest public holder, business software company MicroStrategy (MSTR), to unrealized gains of over $1.1 billion, 25% more than their cumulative investment.

 
Michael Saylor is like the character Morpheus from The Matrix. He believes 100% with every fiber of his being that Bitcoin is "the one" and nothing is going to dissuade him. He puts his money where his mouth is at - even when he was underwater for a good while. Based upon everything that I'm reading, he's just starting to realize the payoff for his convictions. Bitcoin is going to explode once the SEC's spot ETF approvals and the BTC halving event are actually realized.
 
The ETF is a nothing burger. Lol, like every single commodity has an ETF. Several have even shutdown due to lack of interest or more sinister reasons. And look what they do with SLV and GLD. Those are tools of manipulation only.
 
The ETF is a nothing burger. ...

Blackrock (et al) is setting up these spot ETFs (not futures ETFs) because there is institutional demand for them. Institutional investors want exposure to BTC and ETH without having to mess with token custody (wallets, security, etc.). Market analysts are predicting billions to flow into these ETFs once they are approved.
 


Holy shit! So is this trust supposed to buy more SOL to bring the premium back down to Earth? Sounds like there is tremendous institutional interest in SOL.

 
Institutions have MORE ability than individuals to buy cryptos and hire IT experts to figure it out. No reason to wait for an ETF.
 
Institutions have MORE ability than individuals to buy cryptos and hire IT experts to figure it out. No reason to wait for an ETF.
They don't want to deal with the risks associated with self custody.
 
For me personally, I prefer self custody. I'm not an (investment, pension, retirement, etc.) fund though. Institutional investors aren't stackers. They just want to profit on the underlying asset and ETFs will be well regulated products/options that fit within their existing investment frameworks.
 
Nov 14 (Reuters) - Bitcoin miners are making hay while the sun shines.

The business has been yanked out of the doldrums by the cryptocurrency's recent rally - and now mining companies are racing to lock in profits before bitcoin's "halving", when rewards for producing the tokens are cut in half.

The next halving is expected in April 2024, a process designed to slow the release of bitcoin, whose supply is capped at 21 million - of which 19 million have already been mined.

 
^^^ Lot's of people said the price the BTC should drop again before the halving event does it's real takeoff. If the miners dump holdings, that seems to track. However, the logic espoused there doesn't really make sense to me. After the halving, miners will be reaping fewer tokens (half the rate as present), but holding on to BTC already mined seems like the smart thing to do as the price of BTC is set to rise. The longer they can hold off selling for cash flow purposes, the more profit they stand to realize for already mined BTC when the halving price begins rising in earnest.

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Ethereum spot ETF commentary:

It's not clear (to me at least) when the SEC would be ruling on the Blackrock spot Ether ETF. But if it gets approved by 2nd quarter, I could see the bullish case playing out.
 


Well... That narrows it down!
 
Tax Week 2023 ( for anyone interested here's a link to 9 articles on crypto taxes )

 

 
More Solana (SOL) bullishness:
 
Money management giant Fidelity is seeking to create an exchange-traded fund that owns Ethereum's ether (ETH), according to a Friday filing, joining rival BlackRock in strengthening its crypto embrace.
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SEC is going to be busy next year.
 

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The landscape of digital asset regulation, particularly for cryptocurrencies, has seen a significant uptick in attention from legal entities in recent years. This trend is projected to persist as the sector evolves. Legal experts specializing in blockchain technology are becoming increasingly vital for guiding through the sector’s regulatory intricacies and ensuring adherence to the applicable laws. Since the inception of the cryptocurrency market in 2009, the sector has witnessed a remarkable surge, securing over $55.3 billion in investment by 2019.

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I held some crypto in a Kraken account a long time ago (never connected the account to my bank or ever sent them money). I used the account just for staking and Kraken had a really good custodial staking system. But when the SEC shut down the custodial staking programs for exchanges, I made the move to self custody and that's when I learned how to stake crypto for real (self custody).

It will be interesting to see if this suit ends up invalidating the SEC's "unregistered security" claims against Algorand (ALGO), Polygon (MATIC) and NEAR (or any others) like their suit against Ripple (XRP).
 
LONDON, Nov 21 (Reuters) - Crypto investors have welcomed the prospect of a resolution of a long-running U.S. criminal investigation into Binance, reckoning any deal that allows the major exchange to continue operating would remove a nagging risk to the wider market.

The U.S. Justice Department (DOJ) is seeking over $4 billion from Binance as part of a proposed resolution of its probe, Bloomberg reported on Monday, citing people familiar with the discussions.

 
The deal is done:

Binance will continue operations (assuming they stay solvent after paying their fines and dealing with possible customer flight).
 
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