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chieftain said:
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In a parallel universe, the voters in every state either select "none of the above" or write it in to the tune of 60% of the primary vote. What happens in such an eventuality?
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In the case of write-ins, the 40% that voted for ballot candidates end up selecting the winner(s). Write-ins are mostly meaningless:

Write-in candidates for federal and state elections | USAGov

Writing in a name on a ballot does not mean that vote will count. Get the facts on how to write in eligible candidates for federal and state elections.
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Jeffrey Clark’s bid to aid Trump election scheme violated attorney rules, DC Bar panel finds​

A disciplinary panel in Washington has found that Jeffrey Clark, a former high-ranking Justice Department official, violated ethics rules for lawyers in his attempt to aid Donald Trump’s bid to subvert the 2020 election.

The three-member disciplinary committee determined Thursday that Clark’s campaign to pressure Justice Department leaders to help upend the transfer of power to Joe Biden violated his duties as an attorney.

The preliminary ruling jumpstarts a process that could lead to the suspension or even permanent revocation of Clark’s license to practice law, even as he’s considered a candidate for a senior position in a second Trump administration. Disciplinary investigators who brought the charges against Clark say they intend to advocate for his disbarment.

The decision followed six days of testimony, including by Clark’s former Justice Department superiors: Acting Attorney General Jeff Rosen and his deputy Richard Donoghue, who described a failed effort by Clark to use the department to falsely claim the election results were in doubt. Former Deputy White House Counsel Pat Philbin also testified publicly for the first time about Clark’s gambit.

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No Labels has no candidate and no future:
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It's Official: No Labels 2024 White House Quest Has Imploded | ZeroHedge

ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero
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I don't think they managed to secure ballot access for the various states before deadlines. I think that was the only reason that he has flirted with the Libertarian Party - guaranteed ballot access.
 
In the case where the majority are writing in candidates that were not ballot eligible, their votes are not actually counted/considered, so while we can see that ~40% of all votes cast were for ballot candidates, technically/legally, the 60% write in votes are null and void - as if they didn't exist. From that technical/legal framework, the ~40% is actually 100%. Obviously, there would be severe disconnect between public sentiment and legal reality.
 
We're witnessing it in real time...

Jonathan Swift wrote on this topic in “The Examiner” in 1710. Boldface has been added to excerpts:1

"Besides, as the vilest Writer has his Readers, so the greatest Liar has his Believers; and it often happens, that if a Lie be believ’d only for an Hour, it has done its Work, and there is no farther occasion for it. Falsehood flies, and the Truth comes limping after it; so that when Men come to be undeceiv’d, it is too late; the Jest is over, and the Tale has had its Effect…"​
 

Safeguarding Democratic Elections in the Age of AI​

As national elections approach in the United States, concerns about AI-generated robot calls and manipulated media have grown more urgent. The 2024 elections mark a pivotal moment in American history, as it stands as the first presidential election year poised at the intersection of the burgeoning advancements in AI-generated content. Both legal and technological interventions will be necessary to mitigate these threats in advance of November.

There is reason to believe the U.S. is not adequately equipped to address this problem. State and local election officials need additional funding and resources to address threats ranging from AI to personal violence. Further underscoring the urgency of addressing these issues, trust in the electoral system is declining, leaving Americans more susceptible to misinformation and disinformation campaigns.

In the digital age, combating AI-generated misinformation, robocalls, deepfakes demands attention. Technologies like AI-powered content verification tools and deepfake detection algorithms digital watermarking may help to address this threat, albeit with imperfections. While they provide a starting point, the role of public engagement in reporting disinformation is also essential. Dedicated platforms have emerged for this purpose. These platforms serve as vital tools for empowering individuals to flag misleading content, fostering a collaborative effort in combating misinformation and safeguarding the integrity of our digital landscape. However, to truly fortify our information ecosystem, comprehensive legislation for AI governance may emerge as the most effective solution. Exploring these multifaceted approaches paves the way towards safeguarding democracy in elections.

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Safeguarding Democratic Elections in the Age of AI

<p>As national elections approach in the United States, concerns about AI-generated robot calls and manipulated media have grown more urgent. The 2024 elections mark a pivotal moment in American history, as it stands as the first presidential election year poised at the intersection of the...
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OUT OF CONTROL Trump Posts SHOCKING VIDEO about Himself​

Apr 8, 2024

MeidasTouch host Ben Meiselas reports on Donald Trump’s unhinged post from this weekend including the most bizarre and dangerous video about himself and Meiselas compares it with the posts and video that President Biden posted.

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Republican Complaining About Election Fraud Drops Out Amid Forgery Scandal​

Austin Smith, an Arizona state Republican representative who has previously complained of election fraud, dropped out of a state House race amid allegations that he forged signatures on his nominating petition sheets.

Smith was elected to the Arizona House of Representatives during the 2022 midterms and is a member of the House's Municipal Oversight and Elections Committee. He is also senior enterprise director for Turning Point USA's Chase the Vote program. Turning Point, a nonprofit founded in 2012 by Charlie Kirk and the late Bill Montgomery, advocates for young conservatives.

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Maddow Blog | Trump’s ‘complicated relationship’ with law enforcement under the spotlight​

In the abstract, the larger set of circumstances is so utterly implausible that it reads like unrealistic fiction: A suspected felon, facing 88 criminal counts, has spent years condemning those he describes as “dirty cops“ and suggesting he’d like to see prosecutions of police officers.

That same accused criminal — currently on trial in one jurisdiction, while awaiting trials in other jurisdictions — is telling voters that he’s running on a “law and order” platform. His alleged crimes and condemnations of law enforcement haven’t stopped multiple police unions from endorsing his 2024 candidacy — the first time in modern American history in which police unions have backed a suspected criminal for national elected office.

As fanciful as this dynamic might sound, it is precisely the one playing out in American presidential politics this year. The New York Times this week shined a light on the “complicated relationship” between Donald Trump and law enforcement.

I’ve long believed there’s a parallel between Trump’s support for law enforcement and his support for the military. On the surface, the Republican celebrates superficial elements of the armed forces: He likes the flags, the uniforms, the symbols, the saluting, and perhaps most importantly, the idea of conveying “strength” and “toughness.”

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Donald Trump Suffers Huge Vote Against Him in Pennsylvania Primary​

Donald Trump suffered a blow in the Pennsylvania primary on Tuesday, as tens of thousands of Republicans refused to vote for him despite being the presumptive GOP nominee.

The former president won the primary race in the key swing state with 83.5 percent of the vote, amounting to more than 786,000 votes.

However, Nikki Haley, who ended her campaign for the White House after Super Tuesday in March, still received 16.5 percent of the vote, equating to more than 155,000 ballots.

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Alledged


Suspected


Key words that are used in the hopes that at the mere mention of will they be accepted as 'fact' by the gullible when in reality it's all made up nonsense.

That's the problem with statements such as these... the left relies on the fact that most people don't have the sense God gave a cricket to realize reality.
 
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You're right. Except in the NY sexual assualt case he hasn't been convicted of anything so far.
 
searcher said:
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You're right. Except in the NY sexual assualt case he hasn't been convicted of anything so far.
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If Jesus was a republican;ican he could get convicted in NY for any crime they throw at him.
Meanwhile the alleged pedophile who allegedly enjoys showering with his daughter is still on the loose and running for re election. The most telling thing of all though is the republicans won't go after him which just shows the world that the entire establishment is as corrupt as it gets.
 

Arizona AG Kris Mayes announces indictments in fake elector scheme​

TUCSON, Ariz. (KVOA) — Arizona Attorney General Kris Mayes announced Wednesday in Phoenix that the State Grand Jury has returned indictments in the ongoing investigation into the fake elector scheme in Arizona.

The following individuals are named as defendants in the indictment: Kelli Ward, Tyler Bowyer, Nancy Cottle, Jacob Hoffman, Anthony Kern, James Lamon, Robert Montgomery, Samuel Moorhead, Lorraine Pellegrino, Gregory Safsten and Michael Ward.

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Arizona AG Kris Mayes announces indictments in fake elector scheme

Attorney General Kris Mayes announced the State Grand Jury has returned indictments in the ongoing investigation into the fake elector scheme in Arizona.
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Grand jury indicts fake electors who falsely certified Donald Trump as 2020 winner in Arizona​

A grand jury has charged 11 Arizona Republicans and seven others in a scheme to keep Donald Trump in the White House by falsely certifying he won the state in 2020, though voters in the Grand Canyon State narrowly favored Joe Biden.

Attorney General Kris Mayes, a Democrat, announced the indictment had been issued on Wednesday. It alleges the slate of Republicans sometimes known as fake electors engaged in a conspiracy aimed at "preventing the lawful transfer of the presidency of the United States, keeping President Donald J. Trump in office against the will of Arizona voters, and depriving Arizona voters of their right to vote and have their votes counted."

The names of seven other individuals are redacted from the grand jury indictment, suggesting a broader scope of Mayes' case. Those people may not have yet been served notice of the allegations against them.

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Grand jury indicts fake electors who falsely certified Donald Trump as 2020 winner in Arizona

The grand jury's decision could levy criminal consequences for a plot intended to subvert the will of Arizona voters.
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Former President Donald Trump, his former chief of staff Mark Meadows, and Rudy Giuliani are unindicted co-conspirators in the Michigan attorney general's case against the state's so-called "fake electors" in the 2020 election, a state investigator revealed in court on Wednesday.

Trump, Giuliani, Meadows are unindicted co-conspirators in Michigan fake elector case, hearing reveals

Former President Donald Trump is among several unindicted co-conspirators in the Michigan AG's case against the state's "fake electors," an investigator has revealed.
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Goldhedge said:
Wait until the rule of law gets enforced fairly....
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I think, never.

This is gonna go one of two ways. A Venezuela-style neo-Stalinist hell, or complete collapse and conquest. Probably by the Chinese, if things go that way.

This is Papa-Doc Duvalier stuff, now. A combination of unmoderated government power, coupled to incredibly-dim intelligence, and with no understanding of consequences and second-order effects.
 

Prosecutor UNCOVERS CRIMES by Trump’s TOP DEPUTY​

Apr 28, 2024

MeidasTouch host Ben Meiselas reports on the RNC and Donald Trump’s head of “election integrity” being charged with election-related crimes.

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“As he sees fit”: Trump lays out the stakes — and the media is starting to hear his message​

The election stakes are as stark as they're simple: Law and order to ensure freedom versus lawlessness and disorder without freedom. That message screams aloud from the pages of TIME Magazine’s most recent cover story, “How far would Trump go?” It’s based on interviews with Trump and others close to him, including a full transcript and fact-check.

The most chilling example of what is at stake this fall is the devastation of women’s right to privacy and reproductive freedom. Trump “would let red states monitor women’s pregnancies and prosecute those who violate abortion bans.” A scenario that gruesomely echoes The Handmaid's Tale.

Doubt he means it? He’s already bragged about his role in overturning Roe v. Wade. Now he’s endorsing the next governmental invasion of women’s bodies.

It’s not only abortion rights he’s after. All the individual freedoms our Constitution guarantees are at risk if we hand power to someone intent on being a dictator “on Day One.” As the eminent historian Ruth Ben-Ghiat tweeted Tuesday, “Trump has been conditioning Americans for years to desire authoritarian rule with him as dictator.”

She pointed to Trump’s response to Time's question about whether he understood “why so many Americans see all this talk of dictatorship as contrary to our most cherished freedoms?” He disagreed, insisting quite the opposite: “I think a lot of people like it.”

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searcher said:

“As he sees fit”: Trump lays out the stakes — and the media is starting to hear his message​

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What's the old saying? Never start a war of words with someone who buys ink by the barrel.

How about someone who uses electrons by the substation-load?

And, how about...when those "communicators" have demonstrated themselves to be childish liars, overwhelmed by estrogen and brain-stem hatred? Are they still effective?

I don't know what the most-effective strategy is, here. Were I working to win control of the nation - I don't mean, an election or the Presidency - I'd be working with Secessionists, planning a post-Washington world. And in that world, these childish wombynz would be executed by the tens of thousands, after victory.

Trump, for his age, and for his temperment, won't be doing that.
 
searcher said:
Law and order to ensure freedom versus lawlessness and disorder without freedom.
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That would fix a lot of what's been going wrong with the nation.

"Abortion" is NOT a right. Doesn't matter how much they scream it is... it's not.
 
Kitco posted a fairly long article of their interview with James Koutoulas. I could probably have posted this in the War on Crypto thread, but it's ultimately a comment on the coming election. He warns that this election will largely determine the fate of financial freedom in the future (ie. whether decentralized crypto thrives or government chokes it out in favor of a CBDC). It's worth a read IMO.

Bitcoin lawyer warns: election outcome could determine fate of crypto in US

The Kitco News Team brings you the latest news, videos, analysis and opinions regarding Precious Metals, Crypto, Mining, World Markets and Global Economy.
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