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I've spent a few hours researching mining companies today. The current drop in prices presents some bargains, but not as many as one would wish for. However, the big picture is clear: The large miners have finally gotten the message that production growth no matter what is not the appropriate way of creating shareholder value. Bigger projects don't necessarily mean increased profits. As an example for this paradigm shift, watch this webcast by Barrick's (ABX) new CEO:
http://audability.com/AudabilityAdm...364_211201380000AM/primary.aspx?Event_ID=1364
Additionally, it seems that the escaltion of costs has finally forced the miners to come clean and disclose all-in costs/oz (incl. reserve replacements/exploration, administrative expenses etc.) instead of just cash costs/oz. This way we can see all-in costs of $1200+/oz. Additionally, these all-in costs have been growing at high single-digits percentages every year over the last 5 years. These facts alone should debunk the "gold is going to $1000 soon" talk. It also explains why hedging activity in the futures market is at such low levels right now: http://www.pmbug.com/forum/f13/open...s-watch-gold-silver-679/index3.html#post19368
It also seems that labor costs in emerging economies have been a major factor in cost inflation, much more than energy! See for example Newmont's recent presentation: http://www.newmont.com/our-investors/events-and-presentations/events-and-presentations
Most of the major upcoming projects are located in such countries, however. That's also going to hurt profitability, too. Labor costs in developed countries are relatively stable on the other hand. But there is not much gold to be mined / discovered in such countries.
As Pierre Lassonde of Franco Nevada (FNV) explained recently, ore grades (gold grams per ton) have also been falling rapidly. Thereby the amount of material required to mine 1oz of gold has quintuppled (5x) over the last decade: http://www.gowebcasting.com/events/denver-gold-group/2012/09/10/keynote-address/play/stream/5084
Now what is this going to mean for overall gold supply and prices in the coming years?
1.) Companies will not increase production as much as it is anticipated by analysts. They've already cut exploration and development budgets.
2.) Supply is only going to grow significantly if prices outpace cost inflation. If they don't outpace costs (like during the last two years), physical is going to continue to outperform the majority of the miners. In order to have stable profits at stable production, the average mining company needs rising prices. That's an explosive setup.
3.) Royalty and streaming companies (FNV, RGLD, SAND, TSX.V: GRO, SLW) are going to be the big winners, because they're not experiencing cost inflation. They're all increasing production without the downside of cost inflation that the miners are exposed to. I predict that there will be more royalty companies going public over the next years. For more on their business models, see here:
http://www.pmbug.com/forum/f14/pm-streaming-companies-slw-business-model-665/
and here:
http://www.pmbug.com/forum/f14/pm-royalty-stocks-royal-gold-rgld-franco-nevada-fnv-1933/
4.) Gold prices are not going to fall substantially, at least not for an extended period of time. Otherwise the mining industry would experience a number of bankruptcies, followed by a massive drop in supply, followed by an increase in prices.
Final note: the situation for silver is basicly the same.
http://audability.com/AudabilityAdm...364_211201380000AM/primary.aspx?Event_ID=1364
Additionally, it seems that the escaltion of costs has finally forced the miners to come clean and disclose all-in costs/oz (incl. reserve replacements/exploration, administrative expenses etc.) instead of just cash costs/oz. This way we can see all-in costs of $1200+/oz. Additionally, these all-in costs have been growing at high single-digits percentages every year over the last 5 years. These facts alone should debunk the "gold is going to $1000 soon" talk. It also explains why hedging activity in the futures market is at such low levels right now: http://www.pmbug.com/forum/f13/open...s-watch-gold-silver-679/index3.html#post19368
It also seems that labor costs in emerging economies have been a major factor in cost inflation, much more than energy! See for example Newmont's recent presentation: http://www.newmont.com/our-investors/events-and-presentations/events-and-presentations
Most of the major upcoming projects are located in such countries, however. That's also going to hurt profitability, too. Labor costs in developed countries are relatively stable on the other hand. But there is not much gold to be mined / discovered in such countries.
As Pierre Lassonde of Franco Nevada (FNV) explained recently, ore grades (gold grams per ton) have also been falling rapidly. Thereby the amount of material required to mine 1oz of gold has quintuppled (5x) over the last decade: http://www.gowebcasting.com/events/denver-gold-group/2012/09/10/keynote-address/play/stream/5084
Now what is this going to mean for overall gold supply and prices in the coming years?
1.) Companies will not increase production as much as it is anticipated by analysts. They've already cut exploration and development budgets.
2.) Supply is only going to grow significantly if prices outpace cost inflation. If they don't outpace costs (like during the last two years), physical is going to continue to outperform the majority of the miners. In order to have stable profits at stable production, the average mining company needs rising prices. That's an explosive setup.
3.) Royalty and streaming companies (FNV, RGLD, SAND, TSX.V: GRO, SLW) are going to be the big winners, because they're not experiencing cost inflation. They're all increasing production without the downside of cost inflation that the miners are exposed to. I predict that there will be more royalty companies going public over the next years. For more on their business models, see here:
http://www.pmbug.com/forum/f14/pm-streaming-companies-slw-business-model-665/
and here:
http://www.pmbug.com/forum/f14/pm-royalty-stocks-royal-gold-rgld-franco-nevada-fnv-1933/
4.) Gold prices are not going to fall substantially, at least not for an extended period of time. Otherwise the mining industry would experience a number of bankruptcies, followed by a massive drop in supply, followed by an increase in prices.
Final note: the situation for silver is basicly the same.