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Jennifer Crumbley, mother of Ethan Crumbley, found guilty of involuntary manslaughter in son’s school shooting​

PONTIAC, Mich. — Jennifer Crumbley, the Michigan woman charged in connection with her son’s deadly school shooting rampage in 2021, was convicted Tuesday of involuntary manslaughter in the unprecedented case.

The unanimous verdict came on the second day of jury deliberations in a landmark trial that turned on an unusual question: Can the parent of a child who commits a mass shooting also be held criminally responsible?

Crumbley, 45, was charged with four counts of involuntary manslaughter — one for each of the victims in the attack at Oxford High School in November 2021. Her son, Ethan, pleaded guilty as an adult to murder, terrorism and other crimes, and was sentenced in December to life in prison without parole.

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Jennifer Crumbley, mother of Ethan Crumbley, found guilty of involuntary manslaughter in son’s school shooting

The Michigan mother was convicted on four counts of manslaughter in connection with her son's deadly rampage at Oxford High School in 2021.
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searcher said:

Jennifer Crumbley, mother of Ethan Crumbley, found guilty of involuntary manslaughter in son’s school shooting​

PONTIAC, Mich. — Jennifer Crumbley, the Michigan woman charged in connection with her son’s deadly school shooting rampage in 2021, was convicted Tuesday of involuntary manslaughter in the unprecedented case.

The unanimous verdict came on the second day of jury deliberations in a landmark trial that turned on an unusual question: Can the parent of a child who commits a mass shooting also be held criminally responsible?

Crumbley, 45, was charged with four counts of involuntary manslaughter — one for each of the victims in the attack at Oxford High School in November 2021. Her son, Ethan, pleaded guilty as an adult to murder, terrorism and other crimes, and was sentenced in December to life in prison without parole.

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www.nbcnews.com

Jennifer Crumbley, mother of Ethan Crumbley, found guilty of involuntary manslaughter in son’s school shooting

The Michigan mother was convicted on four counts of manslaughter in connection with her son's deadly rampage at Oxford High School in 2021.
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Life in prison.

Did they ever figure out what his 'problem' was?
 
searcher said:

Jennifer Crumbley, mother of Ethan Crumbley, found guilty of involuntary manslaughter in son’s school shooting​

www.nbcnews.com

Jennifer Crumbley, mother of Ethan Crumbley, found guilty of involuntary manslaughter in son’s school shooting

The Michigan mother was convicted on four counts of manslaughter in connection with her son's deadly rampage at Oxford High School in 2021.
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Poor parenting. Should have homeschooled their kid instead of relying on the government public fool system.
 
I think we may see more of this as related to school (kid) shootings. Sad truth is that a lot of the shooter probably exhibit signs of mental illness / depression long before they snap. Maybe time for a school counselor, coach or clergy to intervene.
 
searcher said:
I think we may see more of this as related to school (kid) shootings. Sad truth is that a lot of the shooter probably exhibit signs of mental illness / depression long before they snap. Maybe time for a school counselor, coach or clergy to intervene.
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Making parents responsible for child behavior when 'professionals' are employed by the school...

Probably should have put the professionals on trial instead!
 
Goldhedge said:
Making parents responsible for child behavior ...
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I don't know the details of the case/ruling, but parents are, IMO, responsible for the security of firearms they own. If they let their children have access to the firearms, they bear some responsibility for what happens. Same issue with parents letting kids drive their cars or drink their alcohol.
 
This sounds like a really dangerous grey area. I hope they are drawing some sharp lines with good reasoning.
 

James Crumbley is up next as the second parent to face trial in the Oxford High School shooting​

4 Mar 2024) A Michigan man who purchased a gun with his son, the shooter, four days before the massacre at Oxford High School is headed to trial on involuntary manslaughter charges (March 4)(AP video: Mike Householder)


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I think you're going to see more cases like this in the future.

Oxford High School parents pledge to fight for change following latest conviction​

 

Parents of Michigan School Shooter Ethan Crumbley Sentenced to 10-15 Years in Prison​

A Michigan judge sentenced the parents of a teenager who killed four classmates at his high school to 10-15 years in prison each, the first parents of a school shooter to be held directly responsible for their child’s attack.

James and Jennifer Crumbley were each convicted of four counts of unintentional homicide in separate trials that ended in February and March. Their son, Ethan Crumbley, pleaded guilty to four counts of murder in the killings at Oxford High School about 40 miles north of Detroit and is serving life in prison.

Prosecutors had sought 10 to 15 years each for the parents, higher than state minimum sentencing recommendations of 43 to 86 months, citing what they called a lack of remorse by the parents and threatening comments directed at the district attorney made by James Crumbley in jailhouse telephone calls.

James Crumbley asked to be sentenced to time served. His lawyer said in a filing that his threats against the prosecutor weren’t physical and he was venting to loved ones about his situation. Jennifer Crumbley also sought to avoid prison time by serving any additional sentence beyond time served in the guesthouse of her lawyer under electronic monitoring.

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Goldhedge said:
Making parents responsible for child behavior when 'professionals' are employed by the school...

Probably should have put the professionals on trial instead!
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So let me get this straight. Leftists are coming straight out and telling parents that the kids belong to the groomers (teachers). If they tell the kid he is gender confused, there is nothing the parents can do about it. They can even put the kid on puberty blockers if they want and the parents can go pound sand. If the parents object to any of the weird shit the groomers are forcing on the kids, the groomers can make the police take the kids away from the parents.

But let the idiot bastard shoot up the school, and now the parents can be held responsible? For God's sake! Make up your damn minds. Sounds to me like they want their cake and eat it too.
 
Related:

From the link:

The former assistant principal of Richneck Elementary School in Newport News, Virginia, where a 6-year-old shot his teacher in January 2023, has been indicted for child abuse, according to court documents.

Ebony Parker is charged with eight counts of felony child abuse with disregard for life for the shooting, which left first grade teacher Abby Zwerner with life-threatening injuries.

abcnews.go.com

Virginia ex-assistant principal charged a year after 6-year-old shot his teacher

Ebony Parker, the ex-assistant principal of Richneck Elementary School, where a 6-year-old shot teacher Abby Zwerner in January 2023, has been indicted for child abuse.
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If they can hold the parents of this kid responsible, when are they going to go after the parents of that tranny who shot up the Christian school? How about the parents of the gangbangers who shoot up Chicago and Philadelphia every night? Or are they going to pick and choose?
 
The father seems to be a worthless POS. No wonder where the kid gets his anger and hatred from. Read this article before defending that scumbag MF.

www.dailymail.co.uk

James Crumbley's jailhouse calls where he vowed revenge on prosecutor

James Crumbley was sentenced earlier this week alongside his estranged wife Jennifer earlier this week, with authorities now releasing the phone calls he made while locked up.
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The father seems to be a worthless POS. No wonder where the kid gets his anger and hatred from. Read this article before defending that scumbag MF.

www.dailymail.co.uk

James Crumbley's jailhouse calls where he vowed revenge on prosecutor

James Crumbley was sentenced earlier this week alongside his estranged wife Jennifer earlier this week, with authorities now releasing the phone calls he made while locked up.
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And the mother is a skank. But, worthless human beings that they are, can they be held criminally liable for the actions of their child. And, if so, doesn't that set a precedent for all school shooters and their parents?
 
CiscoKid said:
And the mother is a skank. But, worthless human beings that they are, can they be held criminally liable for the actions of their child. And, if so, doesn't that set a precedent for all school shooters and their parents?
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I'd be fine if they go after the parents if the kids are juveniles and courts can prove wrong doing. Bringing offspring into this world carries some responsibilty.
In NY state parents can petition the courts to reliquish the parental resposibilities via PINS law.

A child under the age of 18 who does not attend school, or behaves in a way that is dangerous or out of control, or often disobeys his or her parents, guardians or other authorities, may be found to be a Person In Need of Supervision or "PINS". All PINS proceedings are heard in Family Court.
 
Michigan prosecutors charged a father for violating the state's newly enacted safe storage law after his son allegedly got a hold of a firearm and shot himself in the face in their home.

Theo Nichols' 8-year-old son was in "extremely critical condition," at a Detroit hospital following the April 19 incident, police in Warren, Michigan, said at a news conference Wednesday.

abcnews.go.com

Michigan father 1st charged under new safe gun storage law after son shoots himself in the face

A Michigan dad was charged with violating the state's safe gun storage law after his son allegedly got a hold of his firearm and shot himself, investigators said.
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Georgia arrests father of teen suspected in school shooting​

  • Colin Gray, 54, arrested in connection with the shooting
  • Teenager interviewed last year after online threats
  • Teen to be charged and tried as an adult, appear in court on Friday
ATLANTA, Sept 5 (Reuters) - Georgia state officials on Thursday arrested the father of the 14-year-old suspected in a school shooting that killed four people and wounded nine others on Wednesday, saying the father knowingly allowed his son to have the murder weapon.

Colin Gray, 54, was charged with four counts of involuntary manslaughter, two counts of second-degree murder and eight counts of cruelty to children, the Georgia Bureau of Investigation said.

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reason.com

Prof. Robert Leider (GMU): Are Parents Responsible for School Shootings Committed by their Children?

I'm delighted to be able to pass along this item by Prof. Leider, who is an expert on criminal law: On Wednesday, an all-too-familiar tragic scene played
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From the article:

The law traditionally has not imposed a general duty upon parents to protect third parties against the criminal acts of their children. And for good reasons. Parents are not in a position to control their children's behavior at all times. Although parents may choose to have children, they do not choose the children that they get. Unlike the employer-employee relationship, parents cannot terminate a child who exhibits problematic behavior.
But there are some exceptions where parents may violate duties of their own. A parent can become liable when he fails to exercise control over the child and the child's wrongful act is reasonably foreseeable. Even here, however, courts (usually in the tort context—criminal cases are rare) have imposed a strict standard for what qualifies as reasonably foreseeable. To quote the Alaska Supreme Court:
A plaintiff must show more than a parent's general notice of a child's dangerous propensity. A plaintiff must also show that the parent had reason to know with some specificity of a present opportunity and need to restrain the child to prevent some imminently foreseeable harm.
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Dinsmore-Poff v. Alvord, 972, P.2d 978, 986 (Alaska 1999).
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Funny how it leaves out government interfering in family matters....

Spank "your" child and get charged with child abuse by the government...?

"Spare the rod and spoil the child" is a cliché for a reason....
 

Body camera footage shows interview of Colt, Colin Gray on 2023 school shooting online threat​

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searcher said:

Georgia arrests father of teen suspected in school shooting​

  • Colin Gray, 54, arrested in connection with the shooting
  • Teenager interviewed last year after online threats
  • Teen to be charged and tried as an adult, appear in court on Friday
ATLANTA, Sept 5 (Reuters) - Georgia state officials on Thursday arrested the father of the 14-year-old suspected in a school shooting that killed four people and wounded nine others on Wednesday, saying the father knowingly allowed his son to have the murder weapon.

Colin Gray, 54, was charged with four counts of involuntary manslaughter, two counts of second-degree murder and eight counts of cruelty to children, the Georgia Bureau of Investigation said.

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Update:

www.nbcnews.com

Georgia school shooting suspect's dad asks for protection after 'incalculable number of threats' in jail

Colin Gray, whose son is charged with the slayings of 4 people at Apalachee High School, asked a judge to be separated from other inmates behind bars.
www.nbcnews.com www.nbcnews.com
 
The father should just claim immigrant status. Immediate revoke his "citizenship". then he'd be fine and allowed to do Actual crimes himself.
 
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