"Possession of Unregistered Ammunition"

[<SLV>]

Didn't know this was a crime.

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www.uscp.gov

 

[pmbug]

The District of Columbia (aka "DC") is legally Federal land (not part of any State of the Union) and has quirky differences in the law.

§ 7–2506.01. Persons permitted to possess ammunition.

(a) No person shall possess ammunition in the District of Columbia unless:

(1) He is a licensed dealer pursuant to subchapter IV of this unit;

(2) He is an officer, agent, or employee of the District of Columbia or the United States of America, on duty and acting within the scope of his duties when possessing such ammunition;

(3) He is the holder of a valid registration certificate for a firearm pursuant to subchapter II of this chapter; except, that no such person shall possess one or more restricted pistol bullets;

(4) He holds an ammunition collector’s certificate on September 24, 1976; or

(5) He temporarily possesses ammunition while participating in a firearms training and safety class conducted by a firearms instructor.

§ 7–2506.01. Persons permitted to possess ammunition. | D.C. Law Library

code.dccouncil.gov

 

[Voodoo]

Ya like they are a different Country ruled by the GD british royalty, ie the USSA. Not in Merica.

 

[searcher]

Hey @<SLV>

Interesting thread. It's in a members only section. The only people who can see it are signed members. If you want it can be moved to a public section for more views. Up to you.

 

[pmbug]

AFAIK, SCOTUS has never ruled specifically on the issue of whether ammunition is considered equivalent to arms with respect to the second amendment although it's just common sense that ammunition for firearms that are covered by the second should also be.

 

[Goldhedge]

And a rail tanker of ammonium nitrate goes missing and nobody's the wiser....

 

[Voodoo]

AFAIK, SCOTUS has never ruled specifically on the issue of whether ammunition is considered equivalent to arms with respect to the second amendment although it's just common sense that ammunition for firearms that are covered by the second should also be.

Arms are nothing more than a baseball bat without ammo. Seems obvious to anyone except a dunce robe wearing dictator.

 

[<SLV>]

Hey @<SLV>

Interesting thread. It's in a members only section. The only people who can see it are signed members. If you want it can be moved to a public section for more views. Up to you.

Sure. I wasn't sure where it should go.

 

[<SLV>]

How exactly do you enforce the registration of ammunition? Arns have serial numbers as a unique identifier. Also, I presume reloading would be illegal, but then it would be necessary to seal factory ammo on some way that shows it hasn't been reloaded. (As if any hoodlum in DC is actually going reload.)

 

[pmbug]

How exactly do you enforce the registration of ammunition? ...

See post #2 section a3. As I read it, one would need a registration certificate (from DC) that grants permissions for possessing certain types of ammo.

I wonder if anyone has ever challenged the law on Constitutional grounds.

 

[searcher]

Sure. I wasn't sure where it should go.

Moved it to Politics.

 

[searcher]

NJ:

If you are interested in buying ammunition, the first question you need to ask yourself is: what kind of ammunition? And for what kind of weapon? What you are required to do next to comply with New Jersey state laws will largely be guided by your answers. There are specific requirements in New Jersey regarding the purchase, transportation, possession, and use of ammunition (just as for weapons). People looking to purchase ammunition in the Garden State may be required to obtain a permit, while in some instances, there may be no obligation to provide such a permit.

What Is and Isn't Legal for Ammunition in New Jersey

Essential Information to Consider About NJ Ammunition Laws, including permit requirements to buy ammunition, banned kinds of ammo, and penalties for illegal ammunition possession.

www.morristownnjcriminallawpost.com

Ammunition Regulation in New Jersey

In 2019, New Jersey amended the law prohibiting certain categories of individuals from purchasing, owning, possessing or controlling firearms to also include ammunition.

giffords.org

 

[searcher]

The article in the O/P is from Nov 6, 2023. Here's some older articles.

Police: Virginia man, 22, arrested near US Capitol with illegal handgun, ammo

A Virginia man has been arrested near the U. S. Capitol for carrying a pistol without a license and the possession of a large capacity ammunition feeding device and unregistered ammunition. Police say 22-year-old Guy Berry, of Gordonsville, Virginia, was walking in the 200 block of Massachusetts...

wjla.com

Va. man stopped with unregistered gun, 500+ rounds of ammunition in D.C., police say

A Virginia man was arrested Friday night after being stopped at a D. C. checkpoint and being found with an unregistered gun along with more than 500 rounds of ammunition, according to U. S. Capitol Police. The man, who has since been identified as Wesley Allen Beeler from Front Royal in...

wjla.com

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§ 7–2507.06. Penalties. | D.C. Law Library

code.dccouncil.gov

 

[searcher]

Jan 2014
Mark Witaschek is first known prosecution for inoperable, unregistered ammunition

MILLER: D.C. trial for one shotgun shell but no gun, not given NBC David Gregory offer

A year ago this month, the attorney general for the District of Columbia let NBC News anchor David Gregory off scot-free for possession of a “high capacity” magazine because doing so “would not promote public safety.” Financial adviser Mark Witaschek wasn’t so lucky.

www.washingtontimes.com

March 2014

MILLER: Exclusive — Shock verdict — Mark Witaschek guilty of possessing muzzleloader bullets in D.C.

In a surprising twist at the end of a long trial, a District of Columbia judge found Mark Witaschek guilty of “attempted possession of unlawful ammunition” for antique replica muzzleloader bullets. Judge Robert Morin sentenced Mr. Witaschek to time served, a $50 fine and required him to enroll...

www.washingtontimes.com

 

[JayDubya]

I tried reading the articles in the above link but they would open briefly and then close. I suspect I need some kinda subscription or something.

Here's some of what I could glean from them. The underlined words are my emphasis.

1). The law, as written, makes it a punishable offense to possess empty casings and shells and considers their possession to be as serious as having an illegal firearm.

2). Prosecutors have spent a year and a half trying to nail him for the possession of so-called unregistered ammunition.

3). If convicted, he faces a year in jail and a $1,000 fine for having a single, inoperable shotgun shell in his home.

4). The Metropolitan Police Department raided Mr. Witaschek’s rented Georgetown house twice in the summer of 2012 on the word of his angry ex-wife.

5). In a surprising twist at the end of a long trial, a District of Columbia judge found Mark Witaschek guilty of “attempted possession of unlawful ammunition” for antique replica muzzleloader bullets.

Do any of y'all feel safer knowing that this man has been prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law because he had in his possession an EMPTY shell casing?

Do any of y'all feel it was a good use of the prosecutor's time - spending a year and a half, to pursue this matter?

Do any of y'all want to get into a deeper discussion regarding how democrats insist that red flag laws would never be abused?

Do any of y'all want to explain how in the hell REPLICA bullets are/can be/should be considered as any kind of threat?

 

[pmbug]

DC is was and will be dumb and blind to the 2nd amendment. But maybe we'll eventually get another SCOTUS ruling like Heller from it eventually.

 

[searcher]

I tried reading the articles in the above link but they would open briefly and then close. I suspect I need some kinda subscription or something.

I hate when that happens. Let's try a different track.............

Replica bullets, dud shell earn weapons conviction for former Washington man

Replica bullets and a dud shotgun shell got a man convicted of weapons charges in the nation's capital, in a case gun rights activists say shows how overzealous authorities are trampling the Second Amendment.

www.foxnews.com

DC Resident Mark Witaschek Found Guilty of Attempting to Possess Illegal Ammo - The Truth About Guns

&#9664Previous Post Next Post▶ “After two years of sheer and complete legal lunacy, businessman and recreational hunter Mark Witaschek has been found guilty in the District for attempting to possess illegal ammunition without having a gun registered in DC,” commdiginews.com reports. “The biggest...

www.thetruthaboutguns.com

DC Man Convicted for Owning Antique Replica Bullets is Now Being Targeted by the IRS - Activist Post

Lily Dane Activist Post At the end of March, we reported the story of Mark Witaschek, a D.C. resident whose home was raided by SWAT...

www.activistpost.com

Went all the way to the supremes............

Supreme Court denies hearing Mark Witaschek's case

'D.C. had a man in search of a crime' - From shotgun shell to muzzleloader bullets to warrantless tax convictions

www.emilypostnews.com

https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/21/21-921/204250/20211206173356327_Witaschek%20Petition%20EFILE%20Dec%2006%2021.pdf

 

[JayDubya]

I find it extremely ironic that we have such an extreme example of government overreach and how they're attempting to squash this man's God given right(s).
This is a perfect example of why the second amendment exists in the first place.

 

[searcher]

This is a perfect example of why the second amendment exists in the first place.

2nd Amendment is one thing, local laws (and their enforcement) another thing.