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with all due respect in advance, history is replete with more than "a few people" getting "shot or summarily executed", more like ten of millions in numerous societies. (and in the last century). I absolutely agree that there is no way to avoid whats coming, I don't think anywhere is safe, just some places safer than others. I for one hope to increase my families chances so that we will have the opportunity to "be trading with the new guys in town". I'm pretty sure that the ten + morbidly obese welfare leeches three doors down are not going to fare very well when the free shit stops. And I lived "on the street" for ten years. Mad Max will NOT be fun, and I don't have any illusions that I will survive either. More likely it will be like the gut shot kid in "The Unforgiven".
 
The South African experience...

i hadn't read this post before I posted previously.

The idea that farmers are soft targets makes perfect sense to me. Makes the gated suburban home much more appealing. Now if we could only find one that will let you keep chickens
 
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