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We'll see if it's really a trend or not. Bitcoin looks like it may have bottomed and is consolidating for the next leg up. Hedge funds, institutions, etc. are chasing yield. TPTB won't let gold run unabated, so I have to think that when Bitcoin begins it's next leg back up, it's going to attract the yield chasers again.
 


I know Bitcoin was getting a lot of interest from institutional investors before 'Black Wednesday'. I wonder how much gold is benefitting from institutional investor interest after the crypto market crater.
 
Well from a low of $1700 at quarter end (ie end of March) weve seen a steady climb of $200 in around 7 weeks.
Bitcoin for maximum adreneline, Gold for a good nights sleep ...........

Yeah' perhaps it is a generational thing (-;
 
Blimey ! gold down US$ 100 in under a week and not much comment anywhere .............

Hopefully we get ignored when it goes up in similar fashion
 
Well, if Basel 3 is a real thing, I expect some volatility ahead of the July and Jan deadlines. I don't know exactly how this is going to play out but it would seem that some bank trading desks need to liquidate short positions. Maybe they are getting some help to do that.

Then again, maybe folks are moving away from the paper markets to the physical. I wonder what the trading volume looks like.

The spot chart looked funny yesterday - going flat for several hours like no one was trading.
 
Hmm half year end and Basel 3 in a few days time ...........

Yes the two combined could be something the short holders would be very pleased to see prices down for.
 
Looks like we are through the low that we might expect from half year end and any Basel 3 requirements ....
 
Looks like metals are on sale (if you can find any without ridiculous premiums).
 
Hopefully the weak hands are gone as a result of this sudden selloff and when taper tantrums erupt, the metals are much less effected by the 'sell everything' mentality of the herd.

But as long as the futures markets are so easily played, we must remain patient.
 
Am I right in thinking that silver has suffered more from the recent beat down ? GSR was 65, now 75
Its small beer compared to the 124 - 70 move in the opposite direction but why might they have done this ?
What does it tell us ?
 
Hey Chigg, I'm still around 25% down on my silver purchase from 10 years ago .......
Been paying storage and insurance fees ever since

I see it as training in detachment rather than suffering

There have been times when I considered selling it and putting the money into crypto
I will advise all here when I do this, as it will signal a great time to sell crypto and buy silver
 
If it bumped up to 2000-30 an ounce I would be real tempted to sell out right now. One reason is I've had a bad case of want to buy a boat fever for about 3 months and I can't seem to shake it.
 
... I've had a bad case of want to buy a boat fever for about 3 months ...
You know that's an accident waiting to happen. So much shiny lost to the depths.
 
The nonsense of the last 18 months has caused a lot of thinking and re prioritising ....
Is it now the time to spend the rainy day money and if it is, what do we spend it on ?
How long will we be around for ? Fun now or survival later ............

Im tempted to say fukk it and buy the toys but it seems that lots of others are having similar thoughts and prices are waay up.
Do we wait for the great die off that many predict and get lots for our shiny ?

This does require surviving though and a winnebago may not be much use when fuel and spares are not available .....
Perhaps we spend on getting healthy/ staying healthy ? This would include mental health though and that requires toys
 
Your right rb, boats sales have been at record highs the last 18 months. So no deals.
 


The taper talk was never (IMO) going to become reality. We're facing another Covid headwind. brrrt
 
It's long past due for gold to move up a bit. I wonder how much disconnect there is now between the paper and physical markets and what the trade volume looks like in the paper markets. Since gold has been largely range bound for so long, I suspect trading volume was down and folks were either buying physical or other things. But I haven't really been paying attention so I could be very wrong.
 
Had a nice run lately. Looks like the only thing that can stop this upswing is me buying in.
 
... the only thing that can stop this upswing is me buying in.
If Russia backs off Ukraine and the present conflict ends, I could see metals tanking while stocks jump.

I suspect that isn't going to happen though. This looks to get a lot messier before anything gets resolved.
 
If Russia backs off Ukraine and the present conflict ends, I could see metals tanking while stocks jump.

I suspect that isn't going to happen though. This looks to get a lot messier before anything gets resolved.

I agree. But the chances for things escalating are pretty high right now and some nato members would seem to be desparate for a distraction
Its beginning to look like Putin's been caught in a loose-loose situation ......
 
Well ... Shit. Putin has apparently gone insane.
 
If Russia was screwing up Mexico like the west has done to Ukraine, the US would be doing a lot more about it than Putin is doing.
Doesn’t make it right though …..
 
I'm just assuming it's PPT working magic to keep markets calm.
 
Wheres the PPT now ?

Seriously though, The world deciding to gang up on Russia seems ill thought through.
The potential for blowback is enormous and the sudden stop of EVERYTHING coming out of Russia and Ukrane will massively impact and hurt everyone, except perhaps those countries that continue to trade with Russia .......

All looks good for the metals though but not great for those who get priced out of eating normal food and keeping warm.

Do we now have to anticipate unrelible internet as the electronic/cyber war gets going ?

If so then good fortune to all here and hopefully see you on the other side
 
How hard will they defend the ATH in gold ?

The Bullionvault 5 year chart shows ATH at $2036 on the 27th July 2020
Bullionvault just showed $2038 on their daily chart ( updared every few seconds )

The bigger the timeframe the more the peaks and troughs get averaged out so were probably not at ATH but we must be close

A bit of a look around suggests $2067 - https://www.gold.co.uk/gold-price/gold-price-history/
 
You would think with Covid, supply chain issues, monetary inflation and now war disrupting the oil markets that central banks might be a bit challenged enough to conduct monetary policy balancing their various priorities. The Fed has declared that they are going to shut down the brrrt. Where is the juice going to come from to keep a lid on gold? I worry that we might be primed for another MFGlobal situation to scare hedge funds and institutional investors (pension funds, etc.) from buying paper/digital gold.
 
Might be the catalyst that exposes the paper gold scam and finally a chance for physical gold to find its real market value ?
Possibly helped by Russian gold being barred from western markets ...........
And Russia selling desparately needed products for gold cos USD, GBP and Euro are no use to them ?
 
I don't have a good perspective on the scale of the markets involved, but I think China is eager to trade with Russia for things they can no longer sell to Europe (for a good discount I'm sure). Whether they can make up for 100% of the loss of the Eurozone markets I don't know (and kind of doubt).
 
Anyone else surprised that gold hasn't risen further? Seems like all the levers for upward pressure are in play, but gold just puts along.
 
Well this guy is a ray of sunshine...



I thought gold was supposed to be a traditional haven against inflation. Sure isn't acting like one right now.
 
Oh snap! Now I see the violence inherent in the system...



The Western world's sanctions policy is trying to force Russia to sell their gold.
 
That ought to work out well for the western world ……

they could even use some of it to buy energy and food
 
a $50 up day
I'll take it

As nothing makes sense anymore, I will simply go to bed feeling somewhat wealthier ........
 
Inflation numbers came out today higher than expected. I guess there are still a few peeps who see gold as an inflation hedge.
 
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