The Real Lives of the Rich and Famous

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People Are Revealing The Subtle Differences Between "Old Money" Vs. "New Money," And Wow, It's Like Another World​

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Old Money vs. New Money Behavior: 3 Signs That Tell EVERYTHING​

May 20, 2023

11:34

So you’ve spent your entire life wondering why some people have, as we like to say, “class” and others don’t… regardless of which of the two has the most money.

Indeed, someone can have a large bank account and overcompensate for it as if they were. These are the oft-called “new money” behaviors.

And, someone can have less money in the bank than our nouveau riche friend and carry themselves with a much higher level of dignity, restraint, and refinement. Those are most commonly known as “old money behaviors”.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjgIa90ABOs
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Faking it...................

10 Ways Poor People Fake Being Rich​

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5 Differences Between "OLD MONEY" and Rich People​

Mar 16, 2023

13:05

Today, we shall discuss a topic that has long been a source of fascination and intrigue for many — the differences between old money and the nouveau riche.

In the world of wealth and privilege, one’s social status is often defined by the source and history of one’s wealth.

With its deep roots and centuries-old legacies, old money has always held a certain mystique and allure, while the newly minted rich, often associated with flash and extravagance, can provoke both envy and disdain.

So, what are the key differences between these two worlds of wealth?

searcher said:

Old Money vs. New Money Behavior: 3 Signs That Tell EVERYTHING​

May 20, 2023

11:34

So you’ve spent your entire life wondering why some people have, as we like to say, “class” and others don’t… regardless of which of the two has the most money.

Indeed, someone can have a large bank account and overcompensate for it as if they were. These are the oft-called “new money” behaviors.

And, someone can have less money in the bank than our nouveau riche friend and carry themselves with a much higher level of dignity, restraint, and refinement. Those are most commonly known as “old money behaviors”.
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Class is a lot like money. It comes easiest to people who need it the least.

Silent Wealth: How "Old Money" Families Communicate Without Words​

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In a noisy social media-driven world where too many of us are ensnared in a cacophony of tweets, viral videos, and trending memes, the “Old Money” crowd engage in a lifestyle where the simple lifting of an eyebrow speaks volumes - and where a subtle nod can be akin to a Shakespearean soliloquy.

Indeed, it’s as though these privileged few are playing out a silent film where each character understands the script so deeply, the subtitles are meaningless.

The only differentiation I make, is between people who EARNED it, and people who COLLECTED it.

Those who cashed in, as it were, on seigniorage, on royal connections, on power-connections, today, on political connections...I have no use for. Andrew Carnegie, made his money. Yes, he did many things of questionable ethics. Starting with how he got interested in steel...he was a telegrapher for the Union Pacific Railroad, and through messages from regional offices to Omaha, he learned of the trouble with the steel rails of the time.

Henry Ford made his money. UNLIKE his great-great-grandsons, still partying on the old man's dime, and turning the company named for him, Woker than Woke.

John D. Rockefeller had a new product, something that had been considered a contaminant in well water in Pennsylvania. He found it burned brightly in lamps. So he set out to create an industry and market for it. It worked - the cost of lighting, and later heating, with his new liquid fuel, helped people live better, not worse. The Standard Oil Trust brought the nascent industry to maturity, in a day when everyone, from whale-oil merchants to coal brokers, wanted them to go away.

I don't have similar sympathies for the later generations of Rockefellers.

But, compare these rich men to Buffet, to Gates (who did have a product, not his own but his engineers; but it's obvious where Billy's ambitions lie) or to the Europeans like Schwab and Soros. Old money; and originally from money-CHANGERS. Buffet at least made his own; but all he did was buy, sell, rake off the arbitrage. Compare the American industrialists of 150 years ago to today's millionaires - Biden, Ms. Pelosi, Charles Schumer. They are rich through insider trading and Regulatory Capture.

I don't worry that Trump has "no class" compared to old money snobs. Trump apparently also doesn't have that deep ingrained obsession with sodomy and pedophile sex, that's so common to those bluebloods.

There's something to be said for middle-class morality

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... I don't worry that Trump has "no class" compared to old money snobs. ...

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Trump is also old money. You could say that he built a brand (himself), but everything he's done has been thanks to his dad's wealth.

The Four Brothers Who Secretly Own Central London​

Dec 2, 2023

16:53

Sibling rivalries amongst brothers have always captivated the general public with the kind of drama and intrigue usually reserved for Shakespearean plays.
Consider the legendary twelfth-century feud between King Henry The Second's sons, Richard the Lionheart and King John - a brotherly feud that held the very English throne in the balance.
Or the Barclay Brothers - those famed British business moguls whose corporate clashes and courtroom skirmishes could easily fuel a modern-day soap opera…
In this episode, we’ll give you the final scorecard and let you make your own decision, as we describe The Battling Billionaire Brothers Who Own London’s Prime Real Estate.

Why "Old Money" British Families Sold London To Oligarchs: https://youtu.be/rucVvdDlh2M

The “Old Money" British Family That Owns West London (NOT The Grosvenors): https://youtu.be/xUPiTz_PfD0

Offshore Banking, Explained: Where "Old Money" Families Stash Their Billions​

Oct 10, 2023
14:47

Cool breeze write up below the vid on utube.

The Secret World of Swiss Banking: Where “Old Money” Hides Its Wealth​

Sep 26, 2023

18:32

Inside The Richest Old Money Families' Secret "Members" Clubs​

In the secret member's clubs of "old money" mingle, deals are struck, and the true art of living is perfected – all away from the prying eyes of the other half.

It's a mysterious sect of society where fortunes are as old as the hills - and family trees are as intricately branched as the ones in their sprawling country estates.

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What It's Like To Be A Rothschild Dynasty Heir​

Let’s dive into the future of the Rothschild Family Heirs - an “old money” family that keeps everyone curious as to their plans - regardless of why and when.
More specifically, we’ll discuss the next generation of the family - the Millennials and Gen Zed members - who’ll take the mantle of this legendary banking dynasty in the 21st Century.

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Inside The Rothschilds' "Old Money" Mansions​

In the world of finance and global politics, name “Rothschild” name has long been a byword for immense power and wealth.
Today, we’ll take you through their most iconic and sumptuous homes - think of it as a personal tour that you can enjoy without the travel expense - as we describe and guide you through the "Old Money" Mansions of Rothschilds.

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Clans To Commoners: Scotland's Social Class System, Explained​

Dec 31, 2023

At the heart of Scotland's remarkable journey is its unique social hierarchy - first forged in the clan system, and further branching out through history to create a unique tapestry of family alliances and rivalries that have shaped the nation’s character.

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How The Bezos Family Turned $250K Into $1.5 Trillion​

A young Jeff Bezos got a loan from his parents for $250,000 when he was just starting off that would change the world - and their fortunes - to the tune of $1.5 trillion.

In today’s episode, we will take you on the pivotal journey of The Bezos Family - birthed from two parents that invested in their child to create the largest E-commerce company the world.

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These Are The Richest Families In America Achieving Decabillionaire Status​

America’s first billionaire, oil baron John D. Rockefeller, appeared on Forbes’ inaugural rich list, compiled by B.C. Forbes himself in 1918. At the time, he was worth $1.2 billion, the equivalent of about $25 billion today. By the time of his death in 1937, Rockefeller had given away roughly $11 billion in current dollars, and left the rest to his heirs. More than 200 of them, who carry on the tradition of giving through the $5.3 billion (net assets) Rockefeller Foundation, share an estimated $10.3 billion fortune today.

That’s enough to rank them at no. 42 on Forbes’ first ever list of Decabillionaire Dynasties. At a time when markets and asset values are soaring, and the number of billionaires seems to multiply by the day, Forbes decided to up the ante and rank only those families worth $10 billion or more. Forty-five multigenerational families made the cut. Altogether they are worth a combined $1.3 trillion. By comparison, just 36 families were worth $10 billion or more in 2020, the last time Forbes counted up the fortunes of America’s richest families.

These extended families live all across the country in at least 23 states and are based out of hometowns ranging from Louisville, Kentucky to Wichita, Kansas to Racine, Wisconsin. But there are certain places where more of them can be found. New York City, home to the descendants of makeup mogul Estée Lauder (d. 2004) and publishing legend William Randolph Hearst (d. 1951) as well as the Rockefellers, has the most with seven. Chicago (four families) and Atlanta (three families) round out the top three.

The Richest Royal In Europe: Prince Hans Adam II’s Secret Empire​

Explore the fascinating world of Liechtenstein's Prince Hans Adam II, delving into the incredible story of Europe's wealthiest royal. With a staggering $9.2 billion empire, learn how this small country's royal family has amassed such wealth and what it means for the people of Liechtenstein. From luxurious castles to influential financial assets, get an insider's view of the opulence, strategy, and history that define the richest royal lineage in Europe.

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They had a vision, sacrificed everything and took huge risks. The successful ones who built their businesses usually have great character.

The British Aristocrat Who Accidentally Married An "Old Money" Family: Olivia Grosvenor​

An ironic twist of fate has unfolded for Hugh Grosvenor, the Duke of Westminster when he got engaged to Olivia Henson a secret “old money” family bride to be and the Duchess of Westminster in due time.

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This German "Old Money" Family Doesn't Want You To Know How They Got Rich​

7 hours ago

In the shadows of Germany's history, the Quandt family, the German "old money" family known for their ownership of BMW, represents a complex saga of immense wealth entwined with a controversial past.

The family's story unfolds with Stefan Quandt at the helm, inheriting significant stakes in BMW, which under his leadership, continued to dominate the global automotive market with prestigious subsidiaries like Mini and Rolls-Royce.
Despite the economic upheavals, such as the pandemic, BMW's operations flourished, particularly in the U.S., reflecting Stefan's robust management since 1997.
Beyond the gleaming showrooms and sleek designs of BMW cars, Stefan Quandt's influence extends into Delton AG, a conglomerate that manages a diverse portfolio from pharmaceuticals to tech products, illustrating the breadth of the Quandt family's business acumen.
However, Stefan remains a reclusive figure, his public appearances scarce, his life details guarded, choosing instead to exert his influence through substantial political donations, ensuring the Quandt family remains a potent yet hidden force in German politics.
Parallel to Stefan's narrative is his sister, Susanne Klatten, the wealthiest woman in Germany as of 2022.
Her fortune was initially anchored in a significant stake in Altana, a pharmaceutical giant, which has expanded under her leadership.
Like her brother, Susanne maintains a low profile, yet her influence is profound, not only within BMW’s boardroom but also through significant contributions to the Christian Democratic Union, echoing the family's longstanding engagement with political processes.
However, the Quandt dynasty is also shadowed by a dark historical chapter that traces back to World War II.
The family's patriarch, Günther Quandt, and his son Herbert were implicated in using forced labor in their factories during the Nazi era.
This unsettling aspect of their history was thrust into the public eye with the release of "The Silence of the Quandts," a documentary that prompted a significant backlash and led the family to commission an independent study to investigate their Nazi-era activities.
The investigation, completed in 2011, confirmed the family's involvement with the Nazi regime, casting a long shadow over their legacy.
Despite this, the Quandt family has not made reparations or set up memorials at the former factory sites, a decision that continues to draw criticism and scrutiny.
As the Quandt family moves forward, they embody a dual legacy—on one side, innovators and leaders in the global automotive industry, and on the other, bearers of a burdensome history.
Their story is a potent reminder of the complexities of "old money" in Europe, where immense wealth and power are often juxtaposed with ethical and historical dilemmas.
The ongoing public and scholarly examination of their past ensures that the Quandt family's story is not just about luxury cars and business success but also about remembering and understanding the darker chapters of history.
The enigmatic Quandt dynasty, therefore, continues to be both celebrated for their business achievements and scrutinized for their historical actions, embodying the challenging legacy of Germany's industrial icons.

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TIMESTAMPS:
0:00 Introduction
1:09 Chapter 1: The Quality of Being A Quandt
5:26 Chapter 2: Beaming A Light on The Beamer Origins
10:55 Chapter 3: Getting Bigger After The War
14:32 Chapter 4: The Third Generation
17:03 Chapter 5: The Documentary and The Future of The Family

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The Porsche Family: A $55 Billion History of Wealth (and War)​

Delve into the electrifying world of luxury automobiles, where legendary family names are as iconic as the shiny decals on their vehicles.
While many such families have watched their empires shift away from their control, one name has not only maintained its grip but also accelerated its legacy: the Porsche family.

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“Old Money” To No Money: America’s Social Class Structure, Explained​

Aug 2, 2024

The American social class system differs notably from the royal and aristocratic lineages of that in Europe.
In today's episode, we explain how the United States, this colossal experiment in meritocracy, has fashioned its own version of the social pecking order.

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TIMESTAMPS:
0:00 Introduction
1:41 “The Horseshoe Theory of Class”
3:53 #1 The "Top Out-of-Sight" Social Class
7:17 #2 The American Upper Class
8:57 #3 The Tech Elite Social Class
11:33 #4 The American Upper Middle Class
13:37 #5 The American Middle Class
16:37 #6 The High Proletarian Social Class
18:45 #7 The Mid-Proletarian Social Class
21:06 #8 The Low Proletarian Social Class
22:43 #9 The Destitute Social Class
23:56 #10 The Bottom-Out-Of-Sight Social Class

Instead of dividing by "old money" versus "new money" - a snob's game - perhaps we'd do better by breaking the top 2 percent down, between "manufacturers" and "creators" versus "rentiers" and "cronies."

The line can become blurred. Many old manufacturing companies that changed America, are now run by rentiers, drunk on the power they gain at the government trough, through playing DEI and Woketard games.

But those are the real diviners. The MIC businesses depend on government. Government, though, depends on businesses like GM and MTD, to generate product, tax revenues, employment, and stability - so government and cronies can play their seignoirage games.

Casey Jones said:

Instead of dividing by "old money" versus "new money" - a snob's game - perhaps we'd do better by breaking the top 2 percent down, between "manufacturers" and "creators" versus "rentiers" and "cronies."

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I like this. Changed the title.

Athina Onassis: The "Old Money" Heiress Who Can't Escape Drama​

For Athina Onassis, a descendant of the storied Onassis and Niarchos Greek shipping dynasties, the "old money" fantasy is far from reality.
Born into wealth that most can only dream of, Athina's life was quickly overshadowed by familial discord and tragedy.

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TIMESTAMPS:
0:00 Introduction
1:34 Chapter 1: The Amazing Wealth of Athina
4:41 Chapter 2: Born Into Battles
7:35 Chapter 3: The Tragic Life of Christina Onassis
12:21 Chapter 4: A Life As Athina Onassis
- Running the Largest Shipping Fleet on the Planet: The Onassis Family: • Running the Largest Shipping Fleet on...
- Jackie Kennedy: The Onassis Years: • Jackie Kennedy: The Onassis Years

Not getting political here. Just something I enjoyed. Some neat pics.

Rothschilds: The Family That Outsmarted Napoleon​

The Rothschilds have impacted the world immensely. They influenced how money, politics, and monarchies around the world. They came from very humble beginnings, and the rise of this family is worth looking into. In this documentary, we’ll learn more about The rise of the Rothschilds: the world's richest family. We’ll also learn interesting facts about them - like how they were once responsible for Napoleon’s defeat. Is The Rothschild Family the richest in the world? The Rothschilds have truly built an empire of shadows. The true story of the richest family in history is worth exploring.

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The Trump Family: "Old Money" or "New Money"?​

The Trump family - spearheaded by former President Donald Trump - has a question that everyone is asking - are the Trumps an “old money” family or a “new money” family?

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TIMESTAMPS:
0:00 Introduction
0:58 Chapter 1: The German Side
10:06 Chapter 2: The Scottish Side
16:43 Chapter 3: The Life The Trump Children Knew
25:52 Chapter 4: Trump and His Wives
34:27 Chapter 5: The Trump Children

How come these video smear merchants don't focus on "Old Money" Biden - Ten Percent For Da Big Guy?

Or that genius stock day-trader, Vodka Nan?

Yeah, elections are going to be full with propaganda and untruth in media.

That doesn't mean I have to like it, or let it go unremarked.

And NEVER, in our history, have the backstage puppetmasters tried to install someone so unfit as this retarded woman.

The Obamas: The Most Powerful Black Family In The World​

Aug 18, 2024

The Obama family has gone from humble Chicagoans to the most powerful Black family in the world through shrewd - if controversial - political maneuvers, expert business decisions, and an "eyes on the prize" mentality.

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TIMESTAMPS:
0:00 Introduction
Chapter 1: The Overtaking Obamas
Chapter 2: The Origins of The Obama Dynasty
Chapter 3: Marriage and Divorce
Chapter 4: Barack And Michelle
Chapter 5: The First Term
Chapter 6: The Second Term
Chapter 7: The Family and The Future

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The Obamas: The Most Powerful Black Family In The World

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Certainly the gayest.

Also, the one family to have provided us with an Alien President.

The Modern Rothschild Heirs: When Trillions Await Your Inheritance​

If you’ve ever wondered what the Rothschild Family Heirs - an “old money” family that keeps everyone curious as to their plans - are up to…
More specifically, we’ll discuss the next generation of the family - the Millennials and Gen Zed members - who’ll take the mantle of this legendary banking dynasty in the 21st Century.

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Given estate taxes, I'm surprised that (and if) the Rothschild fortune lasted this long.

If it has, it's the first. America has one of the lower estate tax rates, generally; and yet most of the Ford wealth, and that of other robber barons, is gone. A majority of the Ford heirs, and there are hundreds, now, are just barely in the "rich" catergory. They NEED their Ford Class-B stock dividends, for their proletariat lifestyle. (Billy and Edsel II excepted). The Carnegies? The last Carnegie of note was Dale, and we know how he did. He was selling self-help programs to help himself.

I personally knew (casually) a few hangers-on to the Bell and Packard families, when I lived/worked in a resort village in New York State. They're all upper-class, but mostly from their own efforts - law or business work. Their family name got them educational opportunities but that, and some trifling real-estate and name recognition, is all that's left.

So I would wonder how these Rothschild heirs pulled off the tax dodge.

From Billionaire Heiress To Stay At Home Mom: Tamara Ecclestone​

Tamara Ecclestone, daughter of Formula 1’s billionaire mogul Bernie Ecclestone, has hundreds of millions of pounds at her fingertips, but chose a path away from the limelight, transitioning into the role of a devoted stay-at-home mom, balancing her family's legacy with a quieter, more grounded lifestyle.

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TIMESTAMPS:
0:00 Introduction
1:26 Chapter 1: Taking The Town With Tamara
4:28 Chapter 2: Enter The Ecclestones
7:44 Chapter 3: The Early Years of Tamara Ecclestone
12:24 Chapter 4: Love and Robbery
14:37 Chapter 5: Her Modern Life as a Mom

The $3 Billion Teenagers Who Own Norway: The Andresen Sisters​

Sep 18, 2024

The Andresen Sisters of Norway inherited more than $1 billion dollars a piece from their father at the ages of 16 and 18, making these sisters among the youngest billionaires in the world - and together, they redefine what it means to be young, wealthy, and powerful in a country known more for its fjords than its financial might.

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The $42 Billion Gen-Z Brothers Who Own Europe: The Del Vecchio Heirs​

Sep 20, 2024

For the $43 Del Vecchio brothers, owning the iconic Ray-Ban sunglass company is just a small part of an empire that has catapulted them from teenage heirs into the ranks of the world's richest children.

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TIMESTAMPS:
0:00 Introduction
1:48 Chapter 1: The Dynamic Del Vecchios
5:42 Chapter 2: The Beginnings
9:19 Chapter 3: Bifocals To Billions
13:08 Chapter 4: The Transition in Power
16:53 Chapter 5: The Future of the Del Vecchios

Well, seeing as how inheritance taxes are high in Europe...I'd say those heirs (of the dinnasty, as the AI voice called it) have done a lot of good. If you think paying taxes is good.

Other than that...I think that old Leonardo had the right combination of skill, craftsmanship, foresight and luck. A lot of companies made money on the trend towards fashion eyeglasses, including Ray-Ban before he bought it, and LensCrafters...Foster-Grant, many more.

He had the discipline. So far as I can see, he did NOT make his money by selling data, or pushing useless products to governments with a promise to cure fantasy problems.

And his heirs? Europe is high-tax. They're rich now, but unless they can service and update the money machine, they won't be for very long.

Remember, Henry Ford II was born with a platinum spoon in his mouth, too. And his brother and cousins. But the Ford empire is pretty well diluted now...Ford heirs in the bloodline still hold the controlling Class B stock (the only voting shares, that cannot be transferred out of the family) but they're mostly of middle-income or lower. Only Edsel II and Billy Ford stand out as tycoons. Many were frantic that Ford was near bankruptcy in 2008 - as their corporate profits were their only real income.

The Chinese said it best - four generations, peasant to merchant to magnate to wastrel, and return to peasantry.

The Wealthiest Family In New York You've Never Heard Of: The Newhouse Empire​

Oct 25, 2024

One "old money" family in New York City is a secret dynasty that holds a near invisible yet powerful sway over New York’s fashion world: the Newhouse family. They own everything from Vogue to Vanity Fair and so much more, and have managed to do it somewhat under the radar.

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Casey Jones said:

Well, seeing as how inheritance taxes are high in Europe...I'd say those heirs (of the dinnasty, as the AI voice called it) have done a lot of good. If you think paying taxes is good.

Other than that...I think that old Leonardo had the right combination of skill, craftsmanship, foresight and luck. A lot of companies made money on the trend towards fashion eyeglasses, including Ray-Ban before he bought it, and LensCrafters...Foster-Grant, many more.

He had the discipline. So far as I can see, he did NOT make his money by selling data, or pushing useless products to governments with a promise to cure fantasy problems.

And his heirs? Europe is high-tax. They're rich now, but unless they can service and update the money machine, they won't be for very long.

Remember, Henry Ford II was born with a platinum spoon in his mouth, too. And his brother and cousins. But the Ford empire is pretty well diluted now...Ford heirs in the bloodline still hold the controlling Class B stock (the only voting shares, that cannot be transferred out of the family) but they're mostly of middle-income or lower. Only Edsel II and Billy Ford stand out as tycoons. Many were frantic that Ford was near bankruptcy in 2008 - as their corporate profits were their only real income.

The Chinese said it best - four generations, peasant to merchant to magnate to wastrel, and return to peasantry.

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Wealthy people don't pay taxes. that's for the new money people who aren't very bright but got very lucky. Wealthy people set up family trusts that aren't taxable by inheritance taxes. The trust does pay taxes on the income it generates but the principle will probably just grow forever.
I did some work for a trust attorney and he managed one of the great fortunes in the US. Said the 4 heirs basically split the profits on the income it generated and although they always asked to tap into the principle, they never could by orders of the trust. 1 years checks for 1 of them was magnitudes more than I will ever earn in my lifetime and they blew through it every year like it was nothing.