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I had intended this thread to cover topics of importance to the global economic house of cards. Certainly what is happening politically in the USA could have an impact on such things, but I really don't have the sense that Trump theater is going to cause any market earthquakes or lead to any changes in "the plan" that IMF/G20/etc. appear to be working on. Trump hasn't as yet made any appointments or changes to the Fed, Treasury or other departments of import that would signal any fundamental change in policy and I don't think he is going to (whether he survives the current troubles or not - too many ex-Goldman Sachs peeps in his inner circle).

If Trump were to eventually get impeached, I think most peeps here in the USA would see that a sign that there is going to be more stability going forward. Trump has really been stepping on his own dick lately. This business about sharing classified info with Russian diplomats in the White House has really turned sentiment of folks who were rather agnostic about politics/Trump from what I see.

What has been significant about the Trump theater IMO is the shift in attention and focus from news sites. So much effort and attention on it and it seems like news about other important things aren't getting much notice any more.

For example, last I had read, DB was mathematically dead. Italy was the new Greece and going to force Germany/EU's hand on Euro sovereign debt policy. Greece itself was again in a love triangle with the troika. etc. etc. Haven't seen much news/discussion on any of those topics in a good while.
 
Fair enough Bug but its not obvious that Trump did 'tread on his dick' and share classified info
National Security Adviser H.R. McMaster on Tuesday adamantly defended President Trump’s conversations with Russian officials as “wholly appropriate,”

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...o-sharing-with-russia-wholly-appropriate.html

Just another example of my confusion .......

Wouldn't Trumps impeachment upset a few folk ?

And as for DB being broke, this reinforces my statement that nothing matters anymore.

The EBC will print / Italy will sell gov bonds.

No amount of common sense or logic seems to help me to work out whats really going on )-:

A classic Ancona 'rant' is probably what I need (-;
 
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Wouldn't Trumps impeachment upset a few folk ?
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Well sure, but whether it's enough to be significant in any fashion would depend a lot on how things play out. As of this moment, according to my limited wind sock, I think most of America would get on board if the Senate could lay out a sufficient case that Trump was essentially betraying US interests with Russia or obstructing justice with the IC investigations.
 
Is Russia hacking and trying to disrupt U.S. interest? I say most definitely. Did Trump have an organized plan to collude with Russia to influence the election? I doubt it and have seen no evidence.
To me this is all just a cover to hide all the illegal activities that happened with the Clintons, the DNC and Obama. There is hard evidence of multiple crimes and cover ups.
 
I think Russia/ Trump is a distraction.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-05-20/schlichter-warns-coup-against-our-right-govern-ourselves


The blizzard of lies and distraction blowing through Washington is not just any routine stuffstorm, but a calculated attempt to bring down a president – our president, not the establishment’s president. And more than that, it’s an attempt to ensure that we never again have the ability to disrupt the bipartisan D.C. cabal’s permanent supremacy by inserting a chief executive who refuses to kiss their collective Reid.

This is a coup against us. It’s a coordinated campaign by liberals and their allies in the bureaucracy and media to once and for all ensure their perpetual rule over us. We need to fight it, here and now, so we don’t have to fight it down at the bottom of this slippery slope.

It’s brazen. It’s bold. It’s insulting to our intelligence. They aren’t even trying to hide their lies anymore. Truth is irrelevant; this is a choreographed dance routine and everyone has his moves. Call it Breakin’ 2: Electric Leakaroo, except instead of trying to save the community center they’re trying to save their power and prestige.

To buy the media narrative on this latest Russian nonsense, you must believe :

1. That whatever was revealed was super-secret, though we don’t know exactly what it was. When in doubt, assume it’s on par with the nuclear codes!

2. That there was no good reason to share this info with Russia, like coordinating our fight against our joint enemy or to prevent another Russian airliner massacre. Because why would we want another power fighting ISIS or civilians not to be blown out of the sky?

3. That LTG McMaster, who literally wrote the book on soldiers standing up to misbehaving civilian leaders and displayed immense personal courage in battle, turned chicken and sat there silently as Trump monologued about this unknown mystery info of doomsday-level import.

4. That LTG McMaster lied on camera. Twice. And that Secretary of State Tillerson lied too.

5. That random anonymous sources in an intelligence community that hates Trump with a burning passion must be believed without question, though we don’t know their identities or their motives.

6. That these anonymous randos must be believed, even though they were not actually in the room to, you know, actually hear what happened. The traditional bar on hearsay is apparently now just a bourgeois conceit.

7. That when the Washington Post and the rest of the media publishes classified stuff (including intelligence provided by allies) leaked by anyone not named “Donald Trump,” it’s awesome.

8. That the Washington Post and the rest of the media, which has been wrong over and over again in their reporting, are not wrong again.

9. That the Washington Post and the rest of the media are objective and have no anti-Trump bias, even though they are literally cheering the hits on the president.

10. That there are unicorns.
 
Yo, after a long silence

I should perhaps start with some explanation of my sudden disappearance from that here place of common sense, logic & reason, but that's maybe a topic for a different story. Health and personal issues, in short.

Speaking of Trump impeachment; I say based on what? Article in Washington Compost, or the rest of gawkers in the media parroting each other's insane narratives?

FACT: the alleged "memo", of Comey's meeting w/ Trump, of which the alleged "anonymous source" (code word for "bullshit"), read alleged excerpts to Washington Compost "journalist", happened in February.

FACT: on the fifth of May, Comey testified under oath before Congress, that there wasn't ever a case of Administration demanding FBI investigation to be shoot down for political reasons, in his experience. EVER.

I rest my case.
 
Good to see you back Bushi

We could do with a few more rematerialising and triggering a bit of discussion .....
 
Rickards interview is long and covers a lot of different topics, but his comments near the end are germane to the topic of this thread. Quoted snippets can't cover everything, so I recommend clicking the link for the full transcript:

http://goldsilverworlds.com/gold-si...clusive-dollar-may-become-local-currency-u-s/

A sampling:
 

https://dailyreckoning.com/governments-can-kill-cash/
 

http://investmentresearchdynamics.com/china-begins-to-reset-the-worlds-reserve-currency-system/

Seems like the orchestra is warming up for the fat lady to start singing for the end of the petrodollar.
 
Hugo Salinas Price talks about the oil-yuan-gold contract:
http://www.plata.com.mx/mplata/articulos/articlesFilt.asp?fiidarticulo=323
 

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/10/11/the-us-dollar-may-be-at-risk-as-the-global-reserve-currency.html
 
CNBC really beating the drum this morning...


https://www.cnbc.com/2017/10/11/chi...-and-thats-going-to-affect-the-us-dollar.html
 
Weve just seen Saudi get closer to Russia too.
I guess it wasnt just defence systems that were discussed ..........

So what does an angry bear do when no one wants to play with them ?

I guess attacking North Korea might bring em all back in line but it may be too late for that ?
 

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-10-12/china-launches-yuan-ruble-payment-system
 

Video of interview at link: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...nson-sees-wake-up-call-from-china-s-oil-plans
 
Koos Jensen says the Nikkei article which is the root source for the yuan-oil-gold story may have overstated the case:
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-10-16/gold-backed-oil-yuan-futures-contract-myth
 
I haven't run across any new news on the potential Saudi-China oil trade in Yuan. Last news story I could find on it was from December last year. I guess that wheel is turning very slowly.

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Looks like we (ie. USA) are ramping up the currency wars again.


http://money.cnn.com/2018/02/02/investing/dollar-currency-cold-war/index.html


https://dailyreckoning.com/trump-davos-free-trade/
 

https://www.goldmoney.com/research/goldmoney-insights/the-yuan-oil-future-and-gold

^ long read raises some interesting points and in line with those points...

The US dollar’s share of currency reserves reported to the International Monetary Fund declined in the final quarter of 2017 to a four-year low, as other currencies’ shares of reserves grew, data released yesterday showed.
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http://www.themalaymailonline.com/m...al-currency-reserves-hits-4-year-low-says-imf
 

https://www.smh.com.au/business/inv...he-us-but-will-it-use-it-20180407-p4z89u.html


https://dailyreckoning.com/trade-matter-survival-china/

I guess one path to maintaining petrodollar supremacy would be a Chinese economic implosion. Of course, that would affect everyone, not just China though.
 

https://www.rt.com/business/423564-russia-oil-national-currencies/

I thought Russia was trading for oil with Iran using gold or Rubles to bypass US sanctions. Not really sure that this news really changes anything.
 
I'm sure that there is some proxy buying happening to give some countries/companies cover for bypassing sanctions. Much like with gold swaps, it obfuscates the true owner of the underlying asset.

But yeah, last I heard, Iran and Russia were both oil exporters.
 

https://news.goldcore.com/us/gold-b...ime-high-one-quadrillion-reasons-to-buy-gold/

So, in response the to 2007/2008 crisis (or crises if you prefer to think that the world is not globally connected) and it's aftermath, central banks around the globe danced their way to ZIRP (or even NIRP). There is no where to go from here. Raising rates will only feed the already ballooning debt spiral.

Pretty sure there was a moose out front once a upon a time that warned folks about the dangers of fiat currencies, but we live in an enlightened age I guess. I don't understand how anyone thinks we can play shoot the moon with infinitely long rails.

 
So, I'm guessing this is related to the bilateral trade agreements for local currencies:


https://en.radiofarda.com/a/iran-ban-sale-foreign-currency-exchange-bureaus/29168476.html

Iran is feeling the squeeze from economic sanctions I think.
 
Curious that its all foreign currencies.

If they are selling oil to China for yuan, they at least ought to allow this exchange and possibly russian money ?

I would be keen to change my rial's for gold coins ........ the only option at the moment ?
 

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/intl-loans-should-be-based-on-gold-not-dollars-erdogan-130413
 
Following up on the global debt issue mentioned above:
http://gata.org/node/18196

Their numbers don't match the numbers reported by Bloomberg and apparently don't include the derivatives numbers from the BiS either.
 

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...for-official-reporting-currency-idUSKBN1HP25W
 
Some interesting notes about the petroyuan:
https://www.themaven.net/mishtalk/economics/petroyuan-s-crash-at-birth-brIBnp9rg06VLnT90iTfYA/

Mish also posits that the Yuan is in no position to take over the world reserve currency, but I think he misses the larger point that it doesn't have to in order for the dollar to lose that mantle. It just takes a critical mass of countries/economic actors to seek alternatives (whether the Yuan, gold, SDRs, or some other medium) to erode the dollar's hold on that position.
 

How would this help ?
Gold could be even more volatile than the dollar

Eerr can I borrow yer gold old chap ?
why ?
Im thinking I could build a nice palace and buy a few air defence missiles
how will I get my gold back when the loan expires ?
eerrr well I could pay you in lira ......... we might even have a blockchain based version by then :wave:
 
Yes, obviously connected but still doesn't seem to address the potential volatility of a gold backed loan.
I presume you would be borrowing grammes/ounces and would be expected to repay with the same ?
What if the POG suddenly went up 25% and your loan was based on the gold price?
It could only work if all your business / work transactions were also based on gold.


This approach would require the whole Turkish economy to be based on gold.
 
China keeps plodding along on the petroyuan ...
https://sputniknews.com/business/201805031064122832-nigeria-china-deal/
 
Not sure if this is more a reflection of Trump's trade policies, or a point on a larger trend line of the waning petrodollar:
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/06/18/rus...igners-start-losing-appetite-for-us-debt.html
 
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