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They are already preparing their narrative to label all of us as “Russian disinformation agents”.
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That was "Clandestine's" post from Telegram... not mine. (sigh, if one would follow along instead of dropping the needle...)Legit LOL.
Posts Russian propaganda in this thread for weeks on end; worries about being labeled as Russian propagandist.
That was "Clandestine's" post from Telegram... not mine. (sigh, if one would follow along instead of dropping the needle...)
As for propaganda? It's just the other side's point of view from independent folks telling what they see - people in Russia videoing the effect of sanctions on Russia. From what I have gleaned... the EU and the US are suffering more than Russia and we're on what... the 9th version of sanctions?? LOL We are so smart ...we're stupid!
So far, I've seen the US ban all things Russian. Haven't seen where Russia has banned the west. Not all these vlogs are 'propaganda'... if one would actually take the time to view and listen, one might come down in the middle and come away with an educated opinion instead of derision. Ha, ha, ha...
If one were to listen to just the west's 'propaganda' one would also believe that the 2020 election was flawless. An educated person would know that is not the case! They also would probably have gotten the so-called vaccine, because experimental EUA drugs are always a good thing to try out, especially on one's children no less, because the government has our best interests in mind.
Because Science!
Did you know Putin has cancer and is near death?
Russia is losing in Ukraine?
80,000 Russian soldiers have died so far?
Russia doesn't know how to fight in the winter?
Russia is bombing their own nuclear plant?
Trump is guilty of colluding with Putin?
Hunter knows all about energy production?
Jill Biden is a really good doctor?
Joe Biden won the election?
The vaccine is safe and effective and you won't get covid once you take it?
Ivermectin aka "horsey paste" will kill you?
OBL was responsible for 9/11?
The oil in Iraq will pay for the war in Iraq?
Babies were tossed out of incubators in Iraq?
I could go on (for hours), but you get the idea... That's the west's propaganda... so far, none of it has come true.
That was "Clandestine's" post from Telegram... not mine. ...
I remember hearing so much crap about that from the TDSers back when Trump was potus. Now those same people act like they have no recollection of it at all.Don't forget the Russian bank collusion
And the prostitute peepee tape
I guess what 'I think' is there is misinformation on both sides. Nobody cares what I think anyway....I'm aware. You posted it here to share though. I can only assume by your action of posting it here that you found it compelling. So hard to tell when you post so much stuff without any personal comment or thought though.
Also... you can post other people's content in quote tags to make it clear they aren't your words or thoughts.
"MASSIVE developments on the world stage!
The EU are calling for a “specialized court” to hold “International Tribunals” for war crimes against RUSSIA for “starting the war in Ukraine”.
This comes in response to Russia’s continued exposure of the US biological network at the Ninth Review Conference of the BWC.
The West are creating theater to deflect exposure of their crimes. They are PANICKING!
ABSOLUTE MUST READ!!
https://bioclandestine.substack.com/p/eu-calling-for-international-tribunals"
I guess what 'I think' is there is misinformation on both sides. Nobody cares what I think anyway....
It's so anyone can make their own conclusions (thoughts)? Come down in the middle somewhere?
Aggregated information. Kind of why I like Alex in Greece or some of the other vloggers. They pull in news stories from many sources. Everyone has access to sources I never knew of. Also if they are censored it's hard to look them up.
Like this for example... makes me wonder what are they trying to hide?
"HOLY SHIT
The same day the EU launch a counter narrative to the growing body of evidence US biological malfeasance in Ukraine, they attack ELON MUSK looking to “police content” on his platform…
YOU GUYS… this is the EU doing everything they can to prevent the talk about the biolabs…
THE PANIC IS REAL!!!"
and the story goes they were going to Balkanize Russia and remove all their resources.The best quote from this post.
Imagine if the opposite were true. Imagine if Russia used espionage to start a violent civil war to overthrow a nation on our border, let’s call it Canada, then established a puppet government and used Canada as a proxy for all their biological research, money laundering, child trafficking, drug trafficking, human experimentation, etc. And then we find out they are making biological weapons on our border and are trying to put nukes there as well, and then a global shutdown is justified via a genetically enhanced pathogen (bioweapon) that “escaped” as a result of this biological malfeasance going on on our border.
That’s EXACTLY what the US have done to Russia, and yet the West say that it was Russia who “started” the war. WRONG. This war started in 2005 when the Deep State, via then Senator Barack Obama, set up their foothold in Ukraine and began their plan to turn Ukraine into a bioweapons production zone.2
Yeah, we heard all about 'so little (ie. none) evidence.' from the msm about the 2020 election.Bio labs making bio weapons stuff again, huh? So many accusations, so little (ie. none) evidence. It's like the USA > Ukraine ---> SBF/FTX > Democrats bullshit. ** Zero ** evidence to support "--->". Made up bullshit to get folks riled up. Propaganda. My opinion? Bioclandestine is a tool (in every sense of the word).
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Russia did produce the evidence, ...
Waiting for Neuremberg 2.0...Not sure what your position on such matters are,
Bio labs making bio weapons stuff again, huh? So many accusations, so little (ie. none) evidence. It's like the USA > Ukraine ---> SBF/FTX > Democrats bullshit. ** Zero ** evidence to support "--->". Made up bullshit to get folks riled up. Propaganda. My opinion? Bioclandestine is a tool (in every sense of the word).
and the story goes they were going to Balkanize Russia and remove all their resources.
Bio labs making bio weapons stuff again, huh? So many accusations, so little (ie. none) evidence. It's like the USA > Ukraine ---> SBF/FTX > Democrats bullshit. ** Zero ** evidence to support "--->". Made up bullshit to get folks riled up. Propaganda. My opinion? Bioclandestine is a tool (in every sense of the word).
They first lied about any labs at all, then they admitted there were (30) labs doing 'good things' when Newland had to carefully couch her words before Congress, and then it came out there were 48 labs!US Labs in Ukraine is an absolute FACT. What they were doing is till speculation.
Why would there be a need for so many?They first lied about any labs at all, then they admitted there were (30) labs doing 'good things' when Newland had to carefully couch her words before Congress, and then it came out there were 48 labs!
Because that work would be against the law here.Why would there be a need for so many?
....and why in Ukraine? What is the advantage of doing that kind of work there?
They first lied about any labs at all, then they admitted there were (30) labs doing 'good things' when Newland had to carefully couch her words before Congress, and then it came out there were 48 labs!
One would be correct in questioning the narrative with substantial suspicion seeing how the trust has been compromised by their previous actions.
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"US Department of Defense Finally Comes Clean – Admits in Public Document that There Are 46 US Military-Funded Biolabs in Ukraine," a June 12 Gateway Pundit headline read.
"US asked to explain after Pentagon admits to operating 46 biolabs in Ukraine after months of denial," read another June 12 headline by the Morning Star, a socialist newspaper published in Great Britain.
But these are mischaracterizations. The document doesn’t contain any evidence — new or otherwise — of U.S. biolabs in Ukraine.
The 46 facilities referenced in the articles and in the government’s fact sheet are owned and operated by Ukraine, and information about the facilities’ existence has been made publicly available by the Pentagon for some time.
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Since 2005, the U.S. has partnered with Ukraine through the Pentagon’s Biological Threat Reduction Program. The purpose is "to support peaceful and safe biological detection and diagnostic capabilities and to reduce the threats posed by pathogens," according to a March 2022 government fact sheet.
Andy Weber, a member of the Arms Control Association Board of Directors and a former assistant secretary of defense for nuclear, chemical, and biological defense programs, previously told us there are no U.S. military-run labs in Ukraine but rather health labs to help detect, prevent and mitigate infectious disease.
The Defense Department’s Cooperative Threat Reduction program "has provided technical support to the Ukrainian Ministry of Health since 2005 to improve public health laboratories, whose mission is analogous to the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention," Weber said.
Also known as the Nunn-Lugar program, the initiative began after the dissolution of the Soviet Union in 1991 as a project aimed at dismantling and securing leftover weapons of mass destruction programs in former Soviet countries.
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Fact-check: Are there 46 U.S. military-funded biolabs in Ukraine?
The Pentagon didn’t ‘admit’ that there are 46 US-funded biolabs in Ukrainenews.yahoo.com
That's the only reason I can think of.Because that work would be against the law here.
Why else would we do classified research overseas?
Well, there is documented proof that Obama said to NCarolina was it? Something on the order of "We can't do that here in the university located in NC!! (think of my legacy?) THAT would be illegal! Take it offshore, Ukraine...?"Why would there be a need for so many?
....and why in Ukraine? What is the advantage of doing that kind of work there?
Well, there is documented proof that Obama said to NCarolina was it? Something on the order of "We can't do that here in the university located in NC!! (think of my legacy?) THAT would be illegal! Take it offshore, Ukraine...?"
It's rather tiring to rehash what we've known for several years already. Stuff gets memory holed and looking for it is tiresome. One of the reasons losing all of GIM data was so criminal. There's a whole thread on it over there. Problem is wading through 2 years, or more in some cases to find anything. The search function never seems to 'work' like a search function should. Tags were never used either because, heck, we're old folks these days and that stuff came along later in the cycle.
The full-scale invasion of Ukraine on 24 February 2022 has provided an invaluable opportunity to assess the capabilities of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation (AFRF) and the implications of a range of capabilities for modern warfare. Many publicly made judgements on these issues have lacked supporting data or insight into Ukrainian operational planning and decision-making. To ensure that those drawing lessons from the conflict do so from a solid foundation, this report seeks to outline key lessons, based on the operational data accumulated by the Ukrainian General Staff, from the fighting between February and July 2022. As the underlying source material for much of this report cannot yet be made public, this should be understood as testimony rather than as an academic study. Given the requirements for operational security, it is necessarily incomplete.
Russia planned to invade Ukraine over a 10-day period and thereafter occupy the country to enable annexation by August 2022. The Russian plan presupposed that speed, and the use of deception to keep Ukrainian forces away from Kyiv, could enable the rapid seizure of the capital. ...
They are already preparing their narrative to label all of us as “Russian disinformation agents”.
The enemy can no longer rely on cutting out our tongues, so they must resort to discrediting the messengers, because they cannot discredit the message.
They have no rebuttal to dispute the reality of Hunter’s Laptop, the biolabs in Ukraine, Big Tech censorship of Conservatives, mass child exploitation and pedophilia, etc, etc. All the shit they said wasn’t real.
This is panic. They lost control.
-Clandestine
yes. seems people like to act like they forgot the outright admission, FROM THE (DC) OFFICIAL that's the point man in charge of US activities in (ukraine)).US Labs in Ukraine is an absolute FACT. What they were doing is till speculation.
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