Cannabis & Drug Laws (incldg. Biden's Pardon)

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Would be great for agriculture.
 
Florida needs 60% votes to pass recreational this year. It's already like Amsterdam with beaches in certain places.
 
Yeah.

Everybody luuvs Depends Joe, too.

The nooze liars are institutionally and instinctively dishonest. If they spend time telling us something, it's because it's NOT TRUE, and they're Pushing The Narrative.
 
Casey Jones said:
Slim. Slim because there's no inhibition, anymore, about deceitful, skewed "tests." Everything from these Jabs to all the Weird Cures that pop-ups offer.

It's not at all like I don't have experience. My own and watching regular users - as a high-school student, as a welfare caseworker, other cases.

The side-effects include illogical thought, replacing logic with emotion (the hysteria I see on The View reminds me of potheads in difficult settings) and poor judgments. Like, quitting a job. Or borrowing money that can't easily be repaid, for expensive consumer crap.

Unca Walt can tell you - we went round over the years, from when we were on a current-events board, over Gold and abolition of the Federal Reserve. What he said didn't change my mind, and he said his piece and left it.

Except I didn't ignore it. I considered it. For months; for years.

So too, here. Except I had no experience with gold, back then, or Austrian Economics. Here, I DO have experience with pot and pot users. It will take a lot to change my mind.

And, hate to say it, but advocates' work is always suspect. For obvious reasons - a substance-abuser always believes his intoxicant of choice is "medicine." I've had alcoholics tell me that absinthe, the real stuff from Italy (which is actually toxic) was medicine. That, or other mixes. Or that beer is good for you.

Sorry. Life has taught me skepticism.
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Skepticism can make for a fine watchdog. Provided you know when to take it off the leash.


I know many successful people who partake in the privacy of their homes after their workday is done. I could not for the majority of my adult life due to my job. Now that I am retired, I find that I enjoy growing it almost as much as using it. But I never use it if I am leaving my property. And none of my friends and acquaintances are aware of my recreational use.

As for it making one stupid, I can smoke half a joint of Trainwreck and still complete a five-star difficulty level Sudoku and solve the New York Times crossword puzzle. I think stupid people will remain stupid whether they are high or not.
 
Growing is a lot of fun. You pull out the male plants andcfeed them to the hogs. I once had a 6 foot tall Panama Red plant.
 
nickndfl said:
Growing is a lot of fun. You pull out the male plants andcfeed them to the hogs. I once had a 6 foot tall Panama Red plant.
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Now that I have discovered the world of cannabis genetics, I have no more male plants. I used to grow plants from the occasional seed I would find and that was fine. Some were males and some were females. Then I tried mail ordering some feminized plants. All females and the strains were quite a bit more potent than what I was used to. Last summer, I grew four Trainwreck feminized autoflowering plants outside in my tomato patch. Good Lord! You could smell them from thirty feet away and, when they were done, they were almost too strong to smoke. I think I am now done with indica as a species and will stick with sativas from now on. The Trainwreck really has a very nice taste as well.

This is the only "science" I am trusting these days.


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Trump should wear a Bob Marley rasta hat at his next rally and push for legalizing it.
 
The Biden administration will take a historic step toward easing federal restrictions on cannabis, with plans to announce an interim rule soon reclassifying the drug for the first time since the Controlled Substances Act was enacted more than 50 years ago, four sources with knowledge of the decision tell NBC News.

The Drug Enforcement Administration is expected to approve an opinion by the Department of Health and Human Services that marijuana should be reclassified from the most strict Schedule I to the less stringent Schedule III, marking the first time that the U.S. government would acknowledge its potential medical benefits and begin studying them in earnest.

Attorney General Merrick Garland will submit the rescheduling proposal to the White House Office of Management and Budget as early as Tuesday afternoon, a source familiar with the timeline told NBC News.
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Biden administration plans to reclassify marijuana, easing restrictions nationwide

Cannabis is currently classified along with drugs like heroin and LSD. The administration is expected to reschedule it into a category that includes Tylenol and steroids.
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The Justice Department yesterday confirmed that the Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) plans to move marijuana from Schedule I of the Controlled Substances Act (CSA), a list of completely prohibited drugs, to Schedule III, which includes prescription medications such as ketamine, Tylenol with codeine, and anabolic steroids. The Associated Press notes that the change, which is based on an August 2023 recommendation by the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) that resulted from a review President Joe Biden ordered in October 2022, "would not legalize marijuana outright for recreational use."

That is by no means the only thing rescheduling marijuana will not do. Biden wants credit for "marijuana reform," which he hopes will help motivate young voters whose turnout could be crucial to his reelection. The announcement of the DEA's decision seems designed to maximize its electoral impact. But voters should not be fooled: Although moving marijuana to Schedule III will facilitate medical research and provide a financial boost to the cannabis industry, it will leave federal pot prohibition essentially untouched.
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Rescheduling marijuana does not address today's central cannabis issue

Moving marijuana to Schedule III, as the DEA plans to do, leaves federal pot prohibition essentially untouched.
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What Rescheduling Marijuana Means For The Cannabis Industry​

May 2, 2024 Forbes Daily Briefing

With the DEA set to reclassify marijuana as a less dangerous drug, weed companies will finally get a break from a punitive federal tax rate—and cannabis stocks have already rallied.


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Slight tangent to the thread topic:
Today, the Institute for Justice (IJ), together with the Cato Institute, filed an amicus brief in a case before the Michigan Supreme Court, urging the justices to hold that, following the state’s legalization of cannabis in 2018, the smell of marijuana on its own does not give police probable cause to stop, search, and seize individuals.

“Marijuana in Michigan is legal, so it makes no sense to say the mere smell of a legal product can give police a legitimate reason to think something illegal is going on,” said IJ Senior Attorney Rob Frommer. “Giving police the power to stop and search people without reasonable belief that something criminal has happened would violate the Fourth Amendment and lead to embarrassing and invasive fishing expeditions.”
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Public Interest Law Firm Encourages Michigan Supreme Court to Rule Smell of Legal Marijuana Does Not Create Probable Cause - Institute for Justice

ARLINGTON, Va.—Today, the Institute for Justice (IJ), together with the Cato Institute, filed an amicus brief in a case before the Michigan Supreme Court, urging […]
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If marijuana legalization continues to grow, it could end up mitigating a lot of the bullshit that happens on our nation's roads with traffic stops.
 
Sure.

Heavily-taxed legal product, never competes well with the black market. Look at moonshine...ninety years ago, Prohibition was repealed; and they're still at it.

And pot is a lot easier to "produce" than ethyl alcohol.
 
^^^ from the article:
"Not only is the market really underperforming, but California continues to make policy decisions that exacerbate the problem," Jain said.

Isn't that the point of California's gov policies? To exacerbate the State's problems?

If not, they fooled me. Because that's the results they always get.
 

Maryland Gov. Wes Moore poised to issue pardons for 175,000 for weed convictions​

06/17/2024 11:07 AM EDT

Maryland Gov. Wes Moore is issuing pardons for more than 175,000 cannabis convictions, one of the country’s most expansive efforts to provide relief to people with old nonviolent offenses.

Maryland legalized possession and sales of marijuana for adults on July 1 of last year, after voters overwhelmingly backed a referendum.

Moore, the nation’s only Black governor who is viewed as a budding star in national Democratic circles and possible 2028 presidential candidate, said the move to forgive low-level weed possession charges is in line with a campaign promise to make Maryland more equitable. He added that it will also help remove systemic barriers that disproportionately impact Black and brown residents of the state.

“We know that legalization does not turn back the clock on decades of harm that was caused by this war on drugs,” Moore said during remarks at a ceremony in Annapolis, the state capital.

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Hemp vs. Marijuana: Meet The Innovator Capitalizing On A $28 Billion Legal Loophole | Forbes​

Jun 27, 2024

In a building formerly owned by the pharmaceutical company Roche, in an industrial neighborhood of Indianapolis, Indiana, a state where marijuana is still illegal, a former high school quarterback with a college degree in biochemistry is surveying his warehouse filled with millions of dollars’ worth of gummies and vaporizers. The products are packed with delta-9-tetrahydrocanninol (THC), the psychoactive compound in weed known for getting people stoned.

And while local police have raided vape shops selling these cannabis products, Justin Journay, the CEO and founder of 3Chi, insists that he is operating within the letter of federal law—despite the fact that the state’s Attorney General, Todd Rokita, believes companies like his are committing a felony.

That’s because 3Chi’s products are made from marijuana’s cannabis cousin, hemp. In 2018, the federal government legalized hemp and all its derivatives, isomers and extracts through the Agricultural Improvement Act, or what’s known as the Farm Bill. And since hemp and marijuana are different varietals of the same plant—cannabis sativa L.—they contain the same compounds and hemp can be used to make products of similar potencies, or even stronger, than those found in state-regulated marijuana dispensaries around the country.

Despite what the Farm Bill states, there is still plenty of debate about whether hemp-derived THC products are legal at the federal level. That’s because several things are true all at once: hemp-derived cannabinoids, including delta-9 THC, delta-8 THC (a less potent compound that is affectionately called “weed lite” or “decaf kush”) and others, are legal under the Farm Bill if those compounds are found naturally in the plant, meaning if a company takes a heap of hemp and extracts THC, that oil is legal if it contains 0.3% THC or less. In an opinion from the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals in 2022, judges ruled that cannabinoids derived from hemp are legal under the Farm Bill, even if the substances have psychoactive properties.


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Read the full story: https://www.forbes.com/sites/willyako...
 
DOVER, Del. (June 28, 2024) – On Tuesday, the Delaware Senate gave final approval to a bill that would provide marijuana businesses operating in the state better access to banking and insurance services. The enactment of this legislation would remove a roadblock in front of the developing cannabis industry in Delaware and further nullify federal cannabis prohibition in practice.

Rep. Edward Osienski and a large bipartisan coalition of cosponsors introduced House Bill 355 (HB355) on March 21. The legislation would clarify that banks, credit unions, armored car services, and accounting services are not subject to prosecution under state law for simply working with legal cannabis businesses.

blog.tenthamendmentcenter.com

To the Governor: Delaware Bill Would Facilitate Banking for Marijuana Businesses | Tenth Amendment Center

On Tuesday, the Delaware Senate gave final approval to a bill that would provide marijuana businesses operating in the state better access to banking and insurance services. The enactment of this legislation would remove a roadblock in front of the developing cannabis industry in Delaware and...
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searcher said:
DOVER, Del. (June 28, 2024) – On Tuesday, the Delaware Senate gave final approval to a bill that would provide marijuana businesses operating in the state better access to banking and insurance services. The enactment of this legislation would remove a roadblock in front of the developing cannabis industry in Delaware and further nullify federal cannabis prohibition in practice.

Rep. Edward Osienski and a large bipartisan coalition of cosponsors introduced House Bill 355 (HB355) on March 21. The legislation would clarify that banks, credit unions, armored car services, and accounting services are not subject to prosecution under state law for simply working with legal cannabis businesses.

blog.tenthamendmentcenter.com

To the Governor: Delaware Bill Would Facilitate Banking for Marijuana Businesses | Tenth Amendment Center

On Tuesday, the Delaware Senate gave final approval to a bill that would provide marijuana businesses operating in the state better access to banking and insurance services. The enactment of this legislation would remove a roadblock in front of the developing cannabis industry in Delaware and...
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You do realize that with a proper interpretation of the Constitution, an 1800's interpretationbtw btw, cannabis would have never been able to have been made illegal by the fed.gov?

In the other thread you are arguing in favor of the new modern interpretation of the Constitution that allowed cannabis to be made illegal in the first place.

Edited to add: between your arguments in these two threads, it strongly appears that you don't care about anything the Constitution actually says.
You want a modern interpretation, or not? You can't have it both ways.
 
Wife unit just got back from Alaska via Vancouver. BC has walk in rec pot stores for adults only. No license or anything needed other than 21+. She said they have strong gummies and her tolerance is very high at 20mg.
 
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No license or anything needed other than 21+.
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How did they check? Is an "Okay, you look over 21" eyeball check okay without ID / driver's license?
Secondly, did they record ANYTHING in a database? That would be a deal-breaker.

I had a minor confrontation with a young lady in a liquor store, where she insisted that she scan my DL. NO. NO WAY. That place used to be a private business, but got bought by something larger. They will never see another nickel from me. My personal information is NOT going into their database.

And since this is almost a story, just over 30 years ago (early 1990's) I was buying a bottle of Everclear and some drain cleaner. The cashier asked me what I was doing. Asshole. "I am making drinks and clearing my pipe."
 
I don't know if she needed to show ID @ 48yo? I wasn't there and I am out of town now. They have grade A stuff up there. BC is considered the Pacific Northwest which has the best weed in NA.
 
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How did they check? Is an "Okay, you look over 21" eyeball check okay without ID / driver's license?
Secondly, did they record ANYTHING in a database? That would be a deal-breaker.
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These days, there's places that want to do that shit for buyin' a pack of smokes. Even if you are obviously way over the age to buy them.
 

Marijuana user cannot be banned from gun ownership, US court rules​

Aug 28 (Reuters) - A U.S. appeals court on Wednesday ruled that a pot-smoking gun owner in Texas cannot be prosecuted for violating a federal ban on users of illegal drugs owning firearms, saying it is unconstitutional to disarm her based on her past drug habits.

The New Orleans-based 5th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals said, opens new tab the prosecution had violated Paola Connelly's right to keep and bear arms under the U.S. Constitution's Second Amendment citing a landmark 2022 U.S. Supreme Court ruling that expanded gun rights.

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Next week Florida could become the 25th state to legalize recreational marijuana, which would be a big deal given the state's large population, its political demographics, and the 60 percent threshold required for voters to approve legalization via a constitutional amendment. Voters in two much less populous states, North Dakota and South Dakota, will consider similar marijuana initiatives, while Nebraska voters will have a chance to legalize medical use of cannabis. And in Massachusetts, where voters approved recreational marijuana legalization in 2016, they will decide whether to decriminalize noncommercial production and possession of five psychedelics derived from plants or mushrooms.

These ballot initiatives reflect both the ongoing collapse of marijuana prohibition, which 38 states and the District of Columbia have abandoned by authorizing medical or recreational use, and the expansion of pharmacological freedom to include additional psychoactive substances. Their fate could signal the extent to which Americans are questioning the assumptions underlying the war on drugs, which seeks to regulate our bodies and minds by preventing us from consuming politically disfavored intoxicants.
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Voters in 5 states will decide whether to legalize marijuana or psychedelics next week

Next week Florida could become the 25th state to legalize recreational marijuana, which would be a big deal given the state's large population, its
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This year I grew Trainwreck and Gorilla Purple (Gorilla Glue x Purple Punch) in my tomato patch. Very stinky and sticky.

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