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Given BTC's price history, I'm not sure how it is even possible that this has never happened before.
 

'The Dow' for Crypto Markets? New CoinDesk 20 Index Underpins Futures Contracts at Bullish​

  • CoinDesk Indices introduced the CoinDesk 20, intended as a broad cryptocurrency market benchmark that can underpin tradeable products – akin to the S&P 500 or Dow Jones Industrial Average, which play a big role in the stock market.
  • Bullish, the crypto exchange that owns CoinDesk, is offering perpetual futures contracts based on the CoinDesk 20.
Cryptocurrencies just got a new benchmark that, similar to the stock market's Dow Jones Industrial Average, explains how the market is broadly doing.

And the index has an investable product based on it, potentially giving the measure a shot at broader adoption – something previous marketwide benchmarks have failed to win.

CoinDesk Indices on Wednesday introduced the benchmark, called the CoinDesk 20 Index, that tracks the world's largest and most-liquid cryptocurrencies. The behemoths, bitcoin [BTC] and Ethereum's ether [ETH], are among its 20 members, but it goes well beyond them to give traders a diversified summary of the market's performance.

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Most of the CoinDesk 20 are, as I talked about in the Crypto 102 article, the top cryptos (excluding stablecoins) by market cap. I don't understand the rationale they used in their weighting however. Why Dogecoin has a 3% weighting escapes me. I also see that they excluded Tron (TRX) - a top 10 crypto by market cap, while including Aptos and Filecoin (both around 30th by market cap).
 
  • Santiment, an on-chain analytical firm, said Altcoins are creating separation from one another.
  • Michael Van de Poppe has stated that Bitcoin is poised to consolidate within its current range.
  • Coinbase has petitioned the court to dismiss the Securities and Exchange Commission's (SEC) lawsuit.
 
Market commentary on BTC and ETH...



Somewhat ironic that GrayScale's GBTC is the negative driver on the BTC when they (GrayScale) are largely the reason the ETFs exist at all (thanks to winning a decisive court victory after almost a decade of fighting). At any rate, the selling pressure in GBTC will abate at some point and BTC will rebound. The inflows on the other ETFs are strong.



 


If that is correct, the JPMorgan analysis posted previously is likely too pessimistic.
 
They're hedging their bets.

I'd agree that bitcoin's future is probably more-certain than the dollar's. That doesn't mean that it's assured...
 
If Bitcoin didn't exist where would they be putting that $433M each and every day?
 
That $433M represent inflows into the spot BTC ETFs. It's presumably mostly institutional investors wanting BTC exposure in their portfolios. I'm going to guess if it weren't flowing into the BTC ETFs, it would likely just be distributed amongst vehicles already in their existing portfolios (stocks, bonds, etc.).
 
If Bitcoin didn't exist where would they be putting that $433M each and every day?
I have no idea.

I can't understand the mindset of the Globalist crony-rich.

I'd say they'd probably keep on buying private homes...make more-certain that the Deplorables own nothing.

Beyond that...maybe, gold? Can a publicly-traded company put its investments into bullion? I don't know.
 

And you think they are actually buying Bitcoins with that money? Where are the transactions on the blockchain. Or are they instead just building a new Derivatives position to play their normal games and steal retail money.
 
The technical aspects of bitcoin, lead to some interesting questions.

For example, who is entrusted with the key set? If a hostile takeover of BlackRock happens, maybe a Chinese "investment fund" or even a non-Woke corporation or investment pool...is there any protection against key personnel "losing" the keysets? Or even absconding with some or all of it?
 
And you think they are actually buying Bitcoins with that money? ...

Yes, that is what is being reported by the Bitcoin analysts and media who study the blockchain movements.
 
For example, who is entrusted with the key set? ...


 
Looks like the Grayscale selling has a bit more to go...

 

Grayscale selling still appears to be matching the inflows to the other ETFs. Grayscale really needs to fix their ultra high ETF fee.
 
Ah.. That's where the current selling pressure is coming from....

 

Bruised by stock market, Chinese rush into banned bitcoin​

SHANGHAI/HONG KONG, Jan 25 (Reuters) - Dylan Run, a Shanghai-based finance sector executive, started moving a bit of his money into cryptocurrencies in early 2023, when he realized that the Chinese economy and its stock markets were going downhill.

Crypto trading and mining has been banned in China since 2021. Run used bank cards issued by small rural commercial banks to buy cryptocurrencies through grey-market dealers, and capped each transaction at 50,000 yuan ($6,978) to escape scrutiny.

"Bitcoin is a safe haven, like gold," says Run.

He now owns roughly 1 million yuan worth of cryptocurrencies, accounting for half of his investment portfolio, compared with just 40% in Chinese equities.

His crypto investments are up 45%. China's stock market, meanwhile, has been sinking for 3 years.

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I had not considered that economic distress in China might push locals there to buy crypto. Interesting.
 
I had not considered that economic distress in China might push locals there to buy crypto. Interesting.
China is a police state and Social-Credit-Score dystopian hell.

It will indeed be interesting to see how it fares there - and whether buying can be seen as diversified, or concentrated in state-owned banks and corporations or other shadowy fronts.

Also whether the Party tries to contain it with Internet blocking.
 

On the back of GBTC selling and Mt. Gox bankruptcy liquidation, the government going to try and hammer BTC into dust. BTC is likely to go down a good bit before finding it's wings again. Might be the last great buying opportunity of a lifetime when BTC eventually bottoms.

Edit: $130M worth of BTC is a fraction of what GBTC has been selling daily since the ETFs were approved. This isn't going to affect the market as much as I initially thought it might.
 


BTC has been rising from the lows since yesterday, but it's not clear to me when the selling pressure from Mt. Gox will begin so there may be another wave of downside before BTC begins popping for reals.
 
I had not considered that economic distress in China might push locals there to buy crypto. Interesting.
Yes, interesting but also sad.
They don't have the antigold narrative over there, gold was even advertised by gov and media.
Banks facilitating gold accounts and offering coins in their halls.
And still taking legal risks trying crypto.
 
I think the allure for crypto over gold for the Chinese is about jurisdiction. They want assets that are outside of China's control/borders.
 


More offramps (allowing conversion of crypto into fiat) is a good thing.
 

I don't know if his numbers are correct, but continued inflows will definitely have an impact as it does mean consistent buying pressure.
 

 
Can't speak for article's veracity.

Over 2 percent of the US’s electricity generation now goes to bitcoin​

US government tracking the energy implications of booming bitcoin mining in US.

What exactly is bitcoin mining doing to the electric grid? In the last few years, the US has seen a boom in cryptocurrency mining, and the government is now trying to track exactly what that means for the consumption of electricity. While its analysis is preliminary, the Energy Information Agency (EIA) estimates that large-scale cryptocurrency operations are now consuming over 2 percent of the US's electricity. That's roughly the equivalent of having added an additional state to the grid over just the last three years.

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It all leads back to the basic question von Mises tried to answer: What is money?

Bitcoin answers many of those qualities, but not a couple. First, it needs elaborate infrastructure - AND GOVERNMENT PERMISSIONS, FREE FROM EXORBITANT FEES intended to discourage it - for it to work. Electricity; computers; a working computer network. All of which cannot be presupposed, once the government fiat and public finances collapse.

Then, it is not assured to be not-easily-duplicable. Yeah, yeah, yeah, blockchain. Who can explain it, proof-positive, that it cannot be copied or hacked? Few. We don't KNOW who wrote it, yet we are to believe the glib assurances from fanboiz. Who are mostly talking their own wallets.

I have tried to look into it. Both the knowledge required - I don't understand coding, and God knows I've tried, over the years, to learn some of it - and, the cost - to buy a secure wallet-USB storage-stick, and to arrange payment (in dollars, of course, how's that for irony?) to sellers...just tells me, no.

Gold was good enough for the Romans. It was good enough for the Spaniards. It was good enough for 19th-century British. And I can buy it, easily - all I need is the money. Six PM dealers within a 10-mile radius of me. Money, gold. Only knowledge needed is, how to secure it properly; and how to possibly redeem it for smaller currency in the future.
 
It all leads back to the basic question von Mises tried to answer: What is money?

Bitcoin answers many of those qualities, but not a couple. ...

Yep.


Who can explain it, proof-positive, that it cannot be copied or hacked? ...

The design and network/code are public domain. There is no inscrutable black box. Of course, you do need some knowledge of math and/or coding to evaluate it critically.

That said, BTC has been around for over a decade now without any network/wallet hacks. This against a backdrop where other crypto systems (DeFi systems in particular) are regularly exploited if they have vulnerabilities. I am confident that the BTC system is secure from hacking exploits (though other risks remain).
 
This is worth keeping an eye on:
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If approved, the GBTC selling will likely increase downside pressure on BTC for a little bit. Maybe the last good entry point / dip before it flys in 2024.
 
Bitcoin might be getting a Bukele election boost today...
 
This is a 43-minute documentary from DW. Some here probably already know the info presented, I found it interesting. Watched half yesterday, now watching the second half. If you watch it, take it fwiw and dyodd.

Cryptocurrencies - The future of money? | DW Documentary​

Feb 7, 2024
For some, cryptocurrencies are a dangerous bubble. For others, they represent the future of money. But what are the actual uses - and risks -- of cryptocurrencies? This documentary explores how crypto is altering global financial architecture.

Since its inception, Bitcoin has evolved into a digital global currency that is challenging the existing financial system. The international availability and rapid increase in the value of Bitcoin attracted many to join this game of chance. The President of El Salvador even adopted Bitcoin as his nation’s official currency. However, most governments have positioned themselves against cryptocurrencies that aren’t regulated by states.

The European Central Bank is predicting Bitcoin’s imminent demise. At the same time, the ECB also recognizes the need for digital money in a world that’s so reliant on the Internet. The digital Euro, for use as a payment method via Smartphone, is expected to be available soon. This documentary by Tom Ockers and Ulrich Stein explores how cryptocurrencies are altering global financial architecture. They hear from profiteers and victims, supporters and critics of the new digital currencies.

 
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The European Central Bank is predicting Bitcoin’s imminent demise. ...

I wonder if they have a citation for that. AFAIK, the ECB, Fed, et al are not in the business of making market predictions or dispensing investment advice.
 
I wonder if they have a citation for that.

Different pros & cons in the vid. Really well done imo. No politics or personal views, just a look at crypto. Lotta good points made for blockchain tech. Worth a watch for anyone interested.

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