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Goldhedge said:
To be fair... Trump can't prosecute anyone. I think he's doing things within the framework of the law. Any, and I mean ANY implication that Trump is the one attempting "law fare" against these clowns will be excoriated in the media!

He's allowing the FBI/DOJ to investigate (Remember? nobody has been 'investigated' yet? Certainly not during the last admin!) and if and when they find a crime they then get to prosecute.

Sure, we're here sitting in the catbird seat with an unobstructed view of what's been going on (embellished by social media I might add) and we're all fuming because nobody's been convicted, let alone arrested, or accused.

Again stating the obvious... 17th letter of the alphabet yet again:

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What of this 'conspiracy theory' above can anyone disagree with????

You know it has to be done this way because anything OTHER than the above will be torn to shreds in a court of law!!

Patience IS a virtue...!

The criminal syndicate has been operating since before JFK (1963) and while Rome wasn't built in a day, neither was a criminal case!

Another thought is they won't be broadcasting to the world what's going on because they don't want their methods to be known so as to scare them off.
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This is a truly spot-on assessment.

The crybabies that need instant gratification for a decades-long enemy buildup in all parts of the government are not thinking it through.

This is not a one-hour "Reacher" episode. This is a WAR <-- We did not find and punish all Japanese war criminals within six months of Pearl Harbor. Let the evil ones sweat in fear as the lights grow brighter. The ones caught -- stay caught. But with criminal leftist judges everywhere, it must be done so there is no escape due to unnecessary hurry.

Done right, they cannot run and they cannot hide.

Done for excitement and feel-good whacks on some underling's pee-pee, is not the way to go.
 
Federally elected officials and their family members are buying property and leasing it to the government for a profit

 
Unca Walt said:
This is a truly spot-on assessment.

The crybabies that need instant gratification for a decades-long enemy buildup in all parts of the government are not thinking it through.

This is not a one-hour "Reacher" episode. This is a WAR <-- We did not find and punish all Japanese war criminals within six months of Pearl Harbor. Let the evil ones sweat in fear as the lights grow brighter. The ones caught -- stay caught. But with criminal leftist judges everywhere, it must be done so there is no escape due to unnecessary hurry.

Done right, they cannot run and they cannot hide.

Done for excitement and feel-good whacks on some underling's pee-pee, is not the way to go.
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Noone is looking for instant gratification. We had plenty of patience during the first 4 years of trump. We waited while the white hats came to our rescue and were told they were really going after these people hard because some letter told them so. Years of investigations that went absolutely nowhere. (As I correctly predicted by the way).
The problem we have now is a 3 tiered justice system.
1 tier for those on the left.
Another for those on the right
and the 3rd if for us little people who commit a crime and are in cuffs within days.

Meanwhile 10's of thousands of government employees at the disposal of the FBI and DOJ and so far not one arrest even when they pre announce they are going to make an arrest.

Some of you have a lot of faith in the federal gov as if Trump being president is going to make a difference. It didn't last time and it won't this time. Not unless they start vetting and getting rid of the embedded people that are working for the left. We already see that isn't happening and instead Kash puts Jenkins in charge of the DC FBI. Think about that for a second. The same guy who went after Jan 6ers with a vengeance is now in charge in DC. LOL. A person who should have been at the top of the list to be eliminated from the FBI altogether is now in charge of the DC field office. The optics for that couldn't be worse. The cynic in me says whoever is about to be investigated is going to get a nice heads up from him to get ready or go into hiding. Similar to the Bondi pre announcement.

So now taking the situation in totality, it kinda looks like Pam and Kash are in way over their heads.

As for Trump, I think he will succeed in bringing jobs and manufacturing back to the US. Not sure how many manufacturing plants can be built in that little time but we will see. Huge steps in the right direction. He may have to let the illegals stay and help build the plants though. Also the manufacturers will need workers unless they go totally robotic which would make the most sense.
The left really has nothing at this point. They will look for anything to try and impeach Trump on. right now is his pre announcement before the tariffs pause. Not a good image but doubt it's impeachable.

We have no choice but to be patient and see what happens. The frustration come when so much is uncovered and 0 have been arrested for it. I hope I'm wrong and in 6 months we have 100's or even 1000's of arrests and once again I can have a nice dish of crow served up to me. Until then I will continue to bitch and complain about lack of arrests. It's also not just me. seems like every 4th post on X is about the same thing. Where's the arrests? If nothing else it' a great way to keep the pressure up on politicians to actually do something. After all this is your tax dollars at work.
 
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No @Cigarlover, clearly you and I are definite assholes.

Haven't you been following these threads?

Those of us who are "bitching about no hangings yet" and who want "instant gratification" and who don't hang on every cryptic post from some L,M,N,O,P guy and who would like to see the same arrest, trial and conviction that any of us normal folk would get, absolutely without a doubt and cannot be questioned means we are simply morons and just "don't get it".

I don't use emojis as I think they're stupid. But if I did, this would be the perfect place for an eye roll.
 
JayDubya said:
No @Cigarlover, clearly you and I are definite assholes.
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Haven't you been following these threads?

Those of us who are "bitching about no hangings yet" and who want "instant gratification" and who don't hang on every cryptic post from some L,M,N,O,P guy and who would like to see the same arrest, trial and conviction that any of us normal folk would get, absolutely without a doubt and cannot be questioned means we are simply morons and just "don't get it".

I don't use emojis as I think they're stupid. But if I did, this would be the perfect place for an eye roll.
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You left out "Q"...
 
searcher said:
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Short answer: No, they won't.

Longer answer: If they do, it's wrong. JUST...PLAIN...WRONG. What that does is CONTINUE this borrow-to-pay-debt-service circling 'round the bowl...and just gives some of it to the masses. Helicopter Money. Stimmy.

It's all the same. It will fuel price rises (inflation exists as is, but that accelerates the resultant devaluation) and create moar dependency. Moar idiots going out to buy what they cannot afford. Who will learn the real costs, later.
 
I think they will do it. With higher prices because of tariffs coming and a slowdown of the global system it will be a way to do stimulus checks without calling it stimulus checks. The masses will suck it up. Just more bread and circuses.
 
Shitdamnhell. I agree with both of you. I cannot see a way out without genuine financial upheaval.

That said, I am going to equate it to a surgical amputation (leaving a LOT less) as opposed to leaving the diseased limb to kill the whole body.
 
Goldhedge said:
Federally elected officials and their family members are buying property and leasing it to the government for a profit
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Goldhedge -- You just triggered a memory from the Olden Days. I was on the survey group for the Wantagh-Oyster Bay Expressway (dunno if they still call it that). I was going through the maps that showed every tree (and diameter) and every bit of improved land highlighted.

I asked what made land improved, and was told one way was if it was a road or parking lot. Oh. Okay.

Except: I noticed a very prominent politician whose name ended in a vowel was identified on the map for huge sections of "improved land" in the middle of nowhere... except where the Expressway was gonna go.

He had access to the early path layouts, bought land, paved it, collected double. And when I pointed out the obvious, all I got was a shrug: Go back to surveying.
 
A Gnu Yark state of mind.

Corruption, in the Vampire State, is a way of life. The "City" or the country, didn't matter. From the House in Albany to a Town Court in Harmony (actual name of a town, "township" in other states)...you find corruption, arm-twisting, shaddap, kid, play with us now, or pay more after a fair trial.

It's just that they've forgotten how to hide it. And forgotten that airheads like Chatty Kathy Yokel, were supposed to be kept BACKSTAGE, OUT OF SIGHT.
 
Unca Walt said:
Shitdamnhell. I agree with both of you. I cannot see a way out without genuine financial upheaval.

That said, I am going to equate it to a surgical amputation (leaving a LOT less) as opposed to leaving the diseased limb to kill the whole body.
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Well, if you've followed a bit of history as I have you know the fiat financial system eventually fails.

It seems they're ginning for WWIII over in Ukraine/EU and they're hoping it will become a WW to suck the world into the maelstrom so they can reset 'their' system. They've done it before and as Ron Paul said "All wars are Banker's wars".

This 'system' is about to implode and I think Trump is the turd in their reset punchbowl and they don't like it one bit.
 
Goldhedge said:
Ron Paul said "All wars are Banker's wars".
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I never understood that

...until this current cycle. It's plain, now.

What's also becoming plain, is the complete degeneration of mind and moral fiber, that comes with large-scale finance. Another way the Bible was spot-on - "The love of money, is the root of all evil."

I was listening to Tom Luongo being interviewed on a podcast I don't know - thick accent, I'm guessing Russian. He walked his host through why it is that Trump is so hated in the business community - because he threatens their world where capital has no cost, and thereby, anything is possible.

Especially destructive things. I'd come to this conclusion independently, years ago...but I blame(d) the Fed.

Luongo has blamed the London bankers ("City of London"). I never understood his hatred for the British upper-crust - I wrote it off as an instinctive reaction of an Italian kid to the veddy-British toffs. The Italians hate the Irish; the Irish hate the Italians; but they both hate the English, MOAR.

But Luongo has a scenario. He claims, with some historical factoids to back it, that the Fed has been the plaything of City of London since Roosevelt. To fully make sense, you have to hear his taking his host down the primrose path; but the aim was control of the world's raw-materials and assets, through currency manipulation, predatory monetary policies, asset-stripping with the Free Money. Make the whole of the West too poor to even revolt - they exact way they now are in the UK.

So, how do we get out of it, without having the Gen-Z types take us into Eco-Communism, which many seem drawn to? I don't know. Like most people, I'll probably learn too late.
 
Casey Jones said:
I never understood that
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I think he was pointing out that it's the bankers... the money handlers that backed both sides of the war for profit.

i.e., they intentionally create wars to make money.

Casey Jones said:
But Luongo has a scenario. He claims, with some historical factoids to back it, that the Fed has been the plaything of City of London since Roosevelt. To fully make sense, you have to hear his taking his host down the primrose path; but the aim was control of the world's raw-materials and assets, through currency manipulation, predatory monetary policies, asset-stripping with the Free Money. Make the whole of the West too poor to even revolt - they exact way they now are in the UK.
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It's almost as if the City of London is in control of the world, but instead of plying the seas with ships they now do it with finances?

Same thing going on in Russia/Ukraine today. London hiding behind the UK is fomenting war to gain control of Russia's untapped resources only this time I think they met their match with Russia. Those Ruskies don't give a hoot about London. They never give up!

Bonepart tried, Hitler tried, (I wonder if London backed their play as well?).
 
What I've read is China's running on fumes with these tariffs. They can't afford to lose the biggest import market (the US) in the world. All that 'stuff' they produce has to be sold somewhere!

CHINA’S PORT CARGOS START TO SLOW AS TARIFF TENSIONS ESCALATE (WSJ)​

Chinese port activity slumped in early April, with data indicating that exports to the U.S. have been hammered by President Trump’s tariffs.

The cargo handled by ports across China over the April 7-13 period tumbled 9.7% from the week before to 244 million tons. That’s sharply weaker than the 0.88% loss registered during the previous week, when Trump first announced his plan for reciprocal tariffs.

Full article:
https://msn.com/en-us/money/markets...&cvid=4088b07f2bef4d89aa2ec177a7903441&ei=141
 
Goldhedge said:
It's almost as if the City of London is in control of the world, but instead of plying the seas with ships they now do it with finances?
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Exactly. And similar to how the WEF became a super-government of the economically-entangled (if not allied) West.

Klaus learned it somewhere. I'm guessing he grasped what the London financiers were doing, long before us normies did.

But at this point, it's more than a Narrative - that is, City of London control. It explains SO much of what is otherwise incomprehensible.
 
Goldhedge said:
What I've read is China's running on fumes with these tariffs. They can't afford to lose the biggest import market (the US) in the world. All that 'stuff' they produce has to be sold somewhere!
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This is what so many of the naysayers and false-populist Tools of the status-quo, don't get - deliberately or for lack of perception. CHINA is NOT...repeat, NOT....a growing, healthy economy. It's a mercantile colony. They have ONE stage of industry - they manufacture. Not even well - just quickly.

They do not design. They do not organize to operate an integrated business - their "corporations" are shell structures for the CCP and selected favored "private managers" or "entrepreneurs."

They do not/can not market; they do not have distribution channels. They do not (with very few exceptions) even understand how to do this. Chinese attempts to market goods directly in the US, have been mostly tragicomic farces.

Mostly, they have no domestic market or potential market. What is made (under license or purchased designs) in China, Chinese people can mostly not afford. Yes, there's a flashy new "middle class" in China. Not unlike a wall of new Potemkin shops and apartment housings. A few hundred thousand car buyers, in a society of BILLIONS living on slave-wages and barely able to afford to eat...those few hundred poster-children successes for the West to see, prove nothing.

Without DIRECT access to the US, China reverts to what it was under Mao. A world where life is brutal - and short - and proximity to Dear Leader is your only assurance of having a chance to exist.
 
NEW🤔: The President Trump-appointed official who oversaw the dismantling of USAID has abruptly left his role after less than three months in the job, a US official has said.

Pete Marocco had been serving as director for the Office of Foreign Assistance since January for the State Department, and masterminded the shutting down of the US Agency for International Development during his brief tenure as its deputy administrator.

Marocco only learned that his role was coming to an end during a White House meeting late last week when he was asked to turn in his agency badge and laptop, the Wall Street Journal reported.

He had allegedly clashed with Secretary of State Marco Rubio over the extent of the cuts, which saw 83% of USAID funding to overseas projects canceled since President Trump’s inauguration.

A US Marine Corps veteran, Marocco also served in President Trump’s first administration in various roles at the State Department and USAID as well as in the Pentagon and the Commerce Department.

nypost.com

Pete Marocco, Trump official who oversaw dismantling of USAID, abruptly leaves State Department role

In his time in the post, Marocco worked alongside Elon Musk’s Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) but also clashed with Secretary of State Marco Rubio, according to officials.
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Coast Guard commander, top enlisted leader in San Diego fired​

By Gary WarnerStars and Stripes • April 14, 2025
The commander of Coast Guard Sector San Diego has been fired more than five months after service leaders temporarily removed the officer from his post amid an investigation into “unfair treatment of individuals” under his command.

Coast Guard Rear Adm. Joseph Buzzella on Oct. 24 temporarily removed Capt. James Spitler and Master Chief Petty Officer Michael Dioquino, the sector’s top enlisted leader, citing “a loss of confidence due to failures in leadership, judgment, and integrity.”

Buzzella has now permanently dismissed Spitler and Dioquino from their posts. Spitler’s removal was made permanent on April 8. Dioquino was fired in January, the service said.

“We will not tolerate behavior that goes against our core values of honor, respect and devotion to duty,” Buzzella said in October.

www.stripes.com

Coast Guard commander, top enlisted leader in San Diego fired

The commander of Coast Guard Sector San Diego has been fired more than five months after service leaders temporarily removed the officer from his post amid an investigation into “unfair treatment of individuals” under his command.
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Goldhedge said:


JUST IN:
@ElonMusk announces that people will start being arrested for committing fraud against the American people.

"Someone is going to be arrested tomorrow. He actually stole 400,000 social security numbers & personal information from the Social Security database and was selling social security numbers in order for people to basically steal money from Social Security."

About time!
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Is it tomorrow yet?

Pam Bondi still owes us a terrorist arrest in 24 hrs too. Is it 24 hours yet?

Before ya'll start jumping on me bout complaining about lack of arrests, I am only complaining about the pre announced ones that we were promised at this point.

What does tomorrow mean? Because that was 16 days ago now, so tomorrow doesn't really mean tomorrow and 24 hrs doesn't really mean 24 hours. Did I miss the post where either of these arrests took place?

Hows Kash doing on getting those Epstein files for us? Is the FBI reviewing every second of the sex tapes?
 
Cigarlover said:
What does tomorrow mean?
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"Don't they know tomorrow never comes" Roger Whittaker

Roger Whittaker - New World In The Morning 1971

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Whistleblower claims DOGE triggered Russian cyberattack at US labor watchdog

A DOGE whistleblower is claiming that online activities carried out by Elon Musk’s Department of Government Efficiency have resulted in a massive data breach at the National Labor Relations Board (NLRB) – potentially compromising the data of hundreds of millions of Americans.

The protected whistleblower and NLRB civil servant, Dan Berulis, said he witnessed DOGE workers harvesting “nearly the entirety” of the labor board’s “critical information systems.”

According to the Washington, DC-based advocate group Whistleblower Aids, DOGE’s activity with the Board’s IT infrastructure “has exposed the data in those systems for exploitation by foreign adversaries, posing a grave risk to national security.”

More:

 
searcher said:
Whistleblower claims DOGE triggered Russian cyberattack at US labor watchdog

A DOGE whistleblower is claiming that online activities carried out by Elon Musk’s Department of Government Efficiency have resulted in a massive data breach at the National Labor Relations Board (NLRB) – potentially compromising the data of hundreds of millions of Americans.

The protected whistleblower and NLRB civil servant, Dan Berulis, said he witnessed DOGE workers harvesting “nearly the entirety” of the labor board’s “critical information systems.”

According to the Washington, DC-based advocate group Whistleblower Aids, DOGE’s activity with the Board’s IT infrastructure “has exposed the data in those systems for exploitation by foreign adversaries, posing a grave risk to national security.”

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https://cybernews.com/security/whistleblower-doge-data-leak-russia-cyberattack-nlrb-labor-board/
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Whistleblower claims DOGE took sensitive data - now he’s being hounded by threatening notes​

Apr 15, 2025 #CNN #News

An employee and whistleblower from the NLRB, an independent federal agency enforcing the National Labor Relations Act, says DOGE took information from critical databases and describes the haunting images taken of him alongside threatening messages demanding he stop.


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Just a guess.... These last two posts ^ are probably fake news.

 
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DOGE trumpets unemployment fraud that the government already found years ago​

NEW YORK (AP) — The latest government waste touted by billionaire Elon Musk's cost-cutting Department of Government Efficiency is hundreds of millions of dollars in fraudulent unemployment claims it purportedly uncovered.

One problem: Federal investigators already found what appears to be the same fraud, years earlier and on a far greater scale.

More:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/tech...S&cvid=c4d84b9fbcd7408392c446f96d29dad4&ei=20
 

Elon Musk’s DOGE Goons Are Behind Trump’s ‘Gold Card’ Visa Scheme​

Elon Musk’s DOGE goons are onto their next money-making scheme: selling the special immigration visas labeled “gold cards” that President Donald Trump promised would cost just $5 million apiece.

You heard that right—immigrants will soon be able buy their way into the country in a process that will take only two weeks, reported The New York Times. Those who don’t have the funds to get in will go through the typical immigration process, which can take years, or risk being deported through Trump’s mass immigration crackdown.

Musk vowed that his Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) crew would cut “government bloat” by slashing the federal government. He also claimed that he’d save the U.S. $1 trillion, though recent estimates put his gains at just 15 percent of that intended target.

More:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/com...S&cvid=1110ef6a056243658dfc574b76884865&ei=17
 
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