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On 10/20/20 (deadline day for in-person voter registration applications) the suspect retumed to the *Muskegon City Clerk’s office to deliver additional registration forms in person. Meisch estimated that (suspect) brought an additional 2500 forms. Meisch contacted the Muskegon Police Department and Detective Logan Anderson and Captain Shawn Bride conducted a non-custodial interview with the suspect.
Meisch stated that in her opinion a quantity of the voter registration forms were highly suspicious and possibly fraudulent.
Meisch’s opinion was based on the fact that numerous forms appeared to have been completed by the same writer and upon initial examination, addresses on multiple forms were invalid or non-existent.
Meisch investigated further and found that phone numbers on multiple forms were erroneous and signatures on multiple forms didn’t appear to match signatures on file with the Department of Secretary of State. Examples included an address in the and another in the [REDACTED]
Those addresses do not exist in the Muskegon City house numbering system. Another form listed 80 W. Southern Ave which is the address for Muskegon High School and is clearly not a residence.
Because there will be no election to steal from him at that point. Ie: he won't be on the 2028 ballot.WASHINGTON — Donald Trump attempted a violent coup to remain in power the last time he was president, so why would he step down at the end of his term if he’s elected a second time,
The "violent coup" was FBI Astroturf. It should be obvious.Wasn't going to post opinion pieces for a while but since this is something I was saying before Trump managed to get elected in 2016 I've decided to make an exception. It speaks volumes and hits the nail squarely on the head. In 2020 Trump didn't want four more years..........he wanted a lifetime. He looks at Putin, Jong and Xi and wishes he had their power.
Why Would Trump Leave Office After A Second Term If Prison Awaits? Experts Fear He Won’t.
WASHINGTON — Donald Trump attempted a violent coup to remain in power the last time he was president, so why would he step down at the end of his term if he’s elected a second time, particularly knowing that prison may await him once he leaves office?
To a range of increasingly alarmed authoritarianism scholars and Republican officials and consultants, the answer is simple: He will never leave willingly.
“The signs are all there that he would not leave voluntarily,” said Heather Cox Richardson, a history professor at Boston College. “After all, he did his best to stay in office in 2021, sparking an insurrection to do it, and he has vowed to use the power of the presidency more forcefully in a possible second term.”
David Jolly, a former Republican congressman from Florida, which is now Trump’s home state, agreed that a second Trump term could mean the end of American democracy as it has existed for 236 years. “If Trump gets reelected, all bets are off on the Constitution surviving the tests he’ll throw at it,” he said. “His movement would support anything he tries, regardless of constitutional provisions.”
“Trump is so unpredictable that anything could happen. Literally anything,” said GOP pollster Frank Luntz, who added that Trump’s hold on his base of supporters today is “even stronger and more intense” than it was in 2016.
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Maybe, possible, might could be....suggesting the breach was a direct top-down push from Trump's campaign in his attempts to overturn the 2020 election
Maybe, possible, might could be....
A 'breach'...?
That's the price they pay for accepting their lot as a series of protectorates, of client-states.Interesting..........
In Europe, Few Even Want to Talk About Trump Part 2
For most European governments, it is almost too upsetting to think about, let alone debate in public. But the prospect that Donald J. Trump could win the Republican nomination for the presidency and return to the White House is a prime topic of private discussion.
“It’s slightly terrifying, it’s fair to say,” said Steven Everts, a European Union diplomat who is soon to become the director of the European Union Institute for Security Studies. “We were relieved by President Biden and his response to Ukraine,” Mr. Everts said, “but now we’re forced to confront the Trump question again.”
Given the enormous role the United States plays in European security,” he added, “we now have to think again about what this means for our own politics, for European defense and for Ukraine itself.”
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In Europe, Few Even Want To Talk About Trump Part 2 - WorldNewsEra
For most European governments, it is almost too upsetting to think about, let alone debate in public. But the prospect that Donald J. Trump could win theworldnewsera.com
On the other hand, you have some members (I'm one) who try to post the truth about our current political condition and who are considered blasphemers and heretics. Stone him, burn the non believer at the stake, cut out his tongue.
What's really odd is Trump doesn't require defending.You are one of the very few people that can get me to defend Trump.
Trump now has discovery and subpoena powers and this will prove even more interesting in the weeks to come.
Ain't that the f'ing truth!Your political scene is crazy.
You are bias beyond belief, mate...
Your lack of knowledge about the American legal system is showing big time here.
Like I stated above - if you are charged with a crime you do not have to prove your innocence. It's up to the prosecutor to probe to a jury that you are guilty.
In all the cases concerning Trump the prosecutors believe they have enough evidence to prove he's guilty.
And there is something you don't seem to grasp. Trump did this to his self. When the election was over, he went to court 62 times to challenge the results and lost in 61 cases. Had he simply left office like every president before him he wouldn't be in this mess.
As for the documents case - had he simply given the documents back when the government asked for them back there would be no case against him.
No matter what you believe - he brought all this on by his own actions.
Dictators are always bought to power with massive support from the electorate... at first.
Your political scene is crazy.
Aside from the fact that it is first amendment protected political speech...
And that is what Trump and his cohorts were trying to do. He wanted to be a dictator.
While he was in office he literally shit on America's allies and praised mass murdering dictators as great people.
There's one thing you may not understand or be aware of. The 1st amendment doesn't give anyone the right to riot or to try to overthrow the government. Nor does it allow anyone to provoke others to do illegal shit.
And this is what Trump did. Now he'll have his day in court.
I'm sorry, but no. You really should back bullshit like that up with something. How the hell do you get to that conclusion?
Sorry but no, WOW, O wages 8 years of war and he is a clean skin? B fucks up Afghanistan, starts a totally avoidable war in Ukraine and you come to the conclusion that T was an issue? He put in place The Abraham Accords and didn't manage to start any new conflict.
Nobody tried to overthrow a government, they pointed out, using legal channels, what was CLEARLY a dirty election in a number of respects.
In your imagination... he asked in clear terms for peaceful protest. NOWHERE, and you can't find it to post here, did he incite illegal activity.
Hillary pulled the same stunt when she missed out, only no one took her seriously because there were no massively distorted elections statistics, no truck drivers coming forward saying they drove loads of ballots across state lines in clear violation of electoral laws... it goes on and on. Truly, only a fuckwit would believe that Biden had anything like the support he supposedly got in the final numbers. Jeeeez H, maybe if they had cheated with a credible leader up front they could have sold it. The thing is no one with a potential career wanted to take the chance on it all blowing up, so you got the aged, retarded and corrupt Joe shoved up front with his special needs vice that got less than 1% in the Democrat primaries!!!! FFS it's the second worse choice since Joe. It's an EPIC clown show that only EPIC clowns defend. You should be concerned with cleaning up the system, not locking the people who are pointing out that it is clearly broken and corrupt. If they are THAT bad, beat them in the polls with a clean incorruptible system.... don't try and sell me on the idea that you have that now. Chuck out the machines, get proper voter ID and create an auditable trail of paper, Vivek has that one right, stop with the Dominion bullshit it inspires confidence in NO ONE.
These are bullshit claims that only make him stronger and make the Democrats look weak and fearful. This is the insane part, the more they do this the stronger he gets, the more people start to see through this OBVIOUSLY political persecution. It's mad... what is more insane is that BOTH candidates are third rate. Intellectually, Vivek wipes the floor with all of them but on this score T is correct, should he win Vivek will face all the same insane shit that T face because that is how your fucked upside of politics plays the game these days.
Seriously, constant questioning of T's mental capacity and stability and barely a peep over Joe's senility? FFS, are you kidding me? The dribbling fool gets a pass, and you somehow think this system is in balance?
In a normal balanced world, I'd be a harsh critic of T but given the alternative and current admin he was a f'ing saviour.
You really need to focus energy on cleaning up the system and not locking up the players. This thing is so broken and people like you are a big part of the issue.
I'll get back to you on this shortly.
Seriously ignore works fantastic ( I am only guessing what your responding to)Don't bother... really, I'm going back to trading, I'll let you drown in that shit.
Yep 'true' news right from the propaganda machine.Not bias. I do not like Trump one bit and make no bones about the way I feel. But what I post is generally true news.