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Maryland to get insurance payout from Key Bridge collapse​

Jul 25, 2024

Maryland to get insurance payout from Key Bridge collapse


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Updates on MV Dali | Offload of Containers in Norfolk | Crew | Repairs | Liability for Damage​

Aug 18, 2024 #supplychain #dali #baltimorebridge

In this episode, Sal Mercogliano - a maritime historian at Campbell University (@campbelledu) and former merchant mariner - provides an update on MV Dali after its allision with the Francis Scott Key Bridge in Baltimore on March 26, 2024, regarding its offload, repair, crew repatriation, and liability for damages.


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- Marine Traffic marinetraffic.com

- After months stuck on the Dali, most crew members will finally leave the ship as the damaged vessel is set to leave Baltimore https://www.cnn.com/2024/06/20/us/bal...

- New Bill Seeks to Hold Foreign Shipowners Accountable for Maritime Accidents https://gcaptain.com/new-bill-seeks-t...

- 46 U.S. Code § 30523 - General limit of liability https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/te...

- Garamendi, Johnson Introduce Bill to Hold Foreign Vessel Owner Accountable for Baltimore Bridge Collapse https://garamendi.house.gov/media/pre...

- Major (re)insurers and P&I club on hook for Baltimore bridge disaster https://www.insurancebusinessmag.com/...

- Lloyd’s of London Sees Baltimore Bridge Claims in Billions https://news.bloomberglaw.com/insuran...

- 2024/25 Pool and GXL Reinsurance contract structure https://www.igpandi.org/reinsurance/
 
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Dali readies to head to China - Splash247

The ship that has made the most headlines in the world this year is ready to shift continents. The Dali containership, which rammed and destroyed the Francis Scott Key Bridge in Baltimore, nearly six months ago is making plans to leave its repair yard in Norfolk, Virginia and head to China in a...
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They’ve had six months ……….
Why not wait till the Dali has sailed to China and then announce testing and inspection 🙈
 

NTSB: Loose Cables Cause Of Dali Ship/Key Bridge Collapse?​

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Dali lawsuits pile up in the US - Splash247

Legal cases surrounding this year’s most high profile shipping accident are expected to run for many years costing hundreds of millions of dollars. Lawyers for three of the families who lost loved ones when Baltimore’s Francis Scott Key Bridge collapsed six months ago are suing the owners of the...
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Dali leaves US for repairs in China - Splash247

Nearly six months after it made headlines around the world for bringing down Baltimore’s largest bridge, the Dali containership finally left American waters yesterday and is headed to Ningbo in China for further extensive repairs. The ship was escorted by the US Coast Guard and three tugs as it...
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Dali Sets Sail | NTSB Finds Loose Wires | US Sues Owner | Ship to be Repaired in China​

Sep 21, 2024

In this episode, Sal Mercogliano - a maritime historian at Campbell University (@campbelledu) and former merchant mariner - discusses the departure of MV Dali from the US, the latest findings from the NTSB, the US Department of Justice lawsuit against the owners of Dali, and the Dali's voyage and repairs in China


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- CHOPPER 10: Dali ship leaving • CHOPPER 10: Dali ship leaving
- Loose Cable Found During NTSB Dali Investigation Could Cause Blackouts https://maritime-executive.com/articl...
- NTSB Investigation Report Contact of Containership Dali with Francis Scott Key Bridge and Subsequent Bridge Collapse
NTSB Dali - - -- Docket https://data.ntsb.gov/Docket/?NTSBNum...
- US Files $103M Claim Saying Dali was “Unseaworthy” and “Jury-Rigged” https://maritime-executive.com/articl...
- U.S. Sues DALI Shipowner and Manager for $100 Million Over Baltimore Bridge Collapse https://gcaptain.com/u-s-sues-dali-sh...
- US alleges ‘entirely avoidable’ Dali disaster was caused by negligence https://www.lloydslist.com/LL1150696/...
- US Claim https://www.justice.gov/opa/media/136...
- Dali leaves US for repairs in China https://splash247.com/dali-leaves-us-...
- Marine Traffic: Dali https://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/...


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Sal's take on that is interesting and informative. Seems like a hack researcher, or incompetent investigation team, worked from a foregone conclusion, backwards to cherry-pick facts.

Sal's right about the jerry-rigging on ships. It's true on railway equipment, too - and even trucks, when it's possible to cover it over from casual weigh-station inspections. It sounded to me like the NTSB people had little familiarity with ship operations or industry standard practices - as basic as what the bow thrusters can do, or how an anchor is dropped.
 
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Foreign Shipping Companies Reach $102 Million Settlement With DOJ Over Baltimore Bridge Collapse

Singapore-based companies Grace Ocean Private Limited and Synergy Marine Private Limited, the owner and operator of the M/V DALI, have agreed to a $101,980,000 settlement with the U.S. government to...
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Owner/Operator of Dali Agree to Pay U.S. $102M in Baltimore Recovery Costs

In a surprise development coming just a month after the United States filed suit against the owners and operators of the containership Dali for the co...
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Where in the Word is the DALI? --Day 39 to China​

Oct 27, 2024 BALTIMORE

The ship responsible for the collision that took down the Key Bridge in Baltimore continues on the passage to China for repairs.
Day 39 of the trip now has the Dali approaching an area where stormy seas surely await.


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Where in the Word is the DALI? --Day 39 to China
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Planned scuttling?

Taking their time because they knew, eventually, they'd find a storm out there this time of year.

Now that there's suddenly liabilities assessed the owners, contrary to stated law (fair or not, the law indicates what vessel owners must insure against) as well as, possibly, added expense of repair, that prevented a US or European shipyard...the owners may have told the captain, in coded messages, to deliberately sail into weather the ship cannot survive in its condition (the bow damage and its unloaded status).

Solves a lot of problems at once. Instead of costs, they get insurance payout from the sinking.

It wouldn't be the first time it was done.
 
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the Titanic for instance....
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Perhaps.

It's easy, a century out, to rewrite history.

I was thinking a moar pedestrian example: The failed towing of the SS. America, which was supposedly going to a yard for refitting. It had been neglected for years, after being half-fast converted to a second-tier cruise ship; and had been sold, pennies on the dollar, to a startup. Going to Europe for renovations.

Tow line "broke loose." "Attempts" to reconnect it, failed, and the ship was left adrift in a storm.

Instead of obligingly sinking, the ship went aground in the Canary Islands. Five days it was stuck there while the government raised hell with the tugboat's owners and international agencies.

By Day 5, in heavy surf, the ship broke in two. It was immediately declared a total loss - and abandoned.

It took 20 years to completely rust away. No salvage was ever attempted, except by looters in the area.
 
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Perhaps.

It's easy, a century out, to rewrite history.
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Just a theory...

Titanic Conspiracy: The Full Truth | Part One​

In the 1990s a new and explosive theory emerged, championed by an author and enthusiast from England. Robin Gardiner proposed that Titanic never really sank at all; that in April 1912 it was actually the ship's sister, Olympic, that sank as part of a plot to cash in on insurance for the beleaguered owner of the liners, the White Star Line. Flash forward to today and the theory has picked up speed in recent years in online forums and social media; so what is the truth? What actually happened in 1911 and 1912? In this two part series we'll examine the facts as they stand; the photo record and plans to establish what happened to Olympic. We'll speak with renown naval architect and engineer Dr Stephen Payne, designer of many passenger ships, notably the Queen Mary 2. We'll try to set the record straight on Gardiner's theory and reveal the truth behind the great Titanic conspiracy theory; the greatest fraud in modern historiography.

0:00 Intro
3:57 The History of the Switch Theory
10:47 Analysing Olympics' Damage
19:11 Naval Architect Stephen Payne on Olympics' Damage
23:35 Analysing the Insurance Fraud

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LINK TO PART TWO:
01:39 Major Differences Between Titanic and Olympic
6:48 Naval Architect Stephen Payne on Swapping the Ships
8:15 Minor Differences Between Titanic and Olympic
10:39 Belfast's 15,000 Workers
13:26 Naval Architect Stephen Payne on Building Ships
15:23 The Plan to Sink Titanic
23:25 The Wreck
27:46 The True Fraud

 
However, thinking about who was on the Titanic that was against the creating of the Federal Reserve does point to some kind of conspiracy. J.P. Morgan was planning to ride the Titanic, but backed out just before it floated.
 
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However, thinking about who was on the Titanic that was against the creating of the Federal Reserve does point to some kind of conspiracy. J.P. Morgan was planning to ride the Titanic, but backed out just before it floated.
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There is such a thing as premonition. Flashes of insight, or some sort of nudging.

A handful of people had bad vibes about that sailing. Some cancelled; some went ahead. The particulars escape me.

And there was plenty of bad crap afloat. Not just the Financial Engineers of the day; just the way the ship was run. Not particularly unlike other ships, but things were happening.

Like a coal-bunker fire. This was not unknown, but it wasn't ordinary and wasn't easily dealt with. The coal bunker apparently started smouldering before they even left port - based on one photo of the port side that showed some paint discoloration right at the bunker.

Seems Captain Smith didn't want his ceremonial last sailing, and the Titanic's maiden voyage, to be spoiled.

That would also explain why he kept speed full-ahead when getting reports of an ice field. The ship was "unsinkable" but a coal-bunker fire could be catastrophic. The way to deal with it was to empty it. And the easiest, most seemingly-routine way to empty it, was to run hard and put the fire to all the boilers.

And it may have been that the heat-weakening of the lower watertight bulkhead that made up the coal-bunker walls, contributed to the rapid flooding of the ship.

If you want to invoke a divine power, you could say (and it has been said) the Titanic was symbolic of the arrogance of the era; and its sinking was a foretelling of what was to come, in the next thirty years.
 
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Dali arrives in China for repairs - Splash247

This year’s most infamous ship, the Dali containership, has completed its voyage from the US and China and is now at one of the top repair yards in Asia. The ship, which took out Baltimore’s largest bridge in March, arrived at Fujian Huadong Shipyard yesterday where it will undergo significant...
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Dali arrives in China for repairs - Splash247

This year’s most infamous ship, the Dali containership, has completed its voyage from the US and China and is now at one of the top repair yards in Asia. The ship, which took out Baltimore’s largest bridge in March, arrived at Fujian Huadong Shipyard yesterday where it will undergo significant...
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I am truly amazed.

The quickest, cheapest resolution to this, would have been to scuttle the hulk in some sort of "accident." I figured that was why it was taking, what, months, to make the trip - when it's a ship in a business where time is money.

I expect the cost of repair will be close to the cost of replacing the ship, less scrapping value. Makes me wonder why they're doing it - the ship is, what, five years old? That's old for these mega-carriers - they have a service life of less than ten years. They're beaten to crap and then just replaced quickly - which was/is why it's not surprising to find jerry-rigged systems on such a ship, in post-accident inspections.
 
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