Nord Stream Sabotage

Who done it? Super cereal question

  • Drunk boat captain

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Angry Narwhal

    Votes: 1 4.2%

  • Aliens (duh!)

    Votes: 1 4.2%

  • Russia

    Votes: 1 4.2%

  • USA

    Votes: 18 75.0%

  • Germany

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Spanish Inquisition (no one expects them)

    Votes: 2 8.3%

  • Go home bug, you're drunk

    Votes: 1 4.2%
  • Total voters
    24
  • Poll closed .

Welcome to the Precious Metals Bug Forums

Welcome to the PMBug forums - a watering hole for folks interested in gold, silver, precious metals, sound money, investing, market and economic news, central bank monetary policies, politics and more.

Why not register an account and join the discussions? When you register an account and log in, you may enjoy additional benefits including no Google ads, market data/charts, access to trade/barter with the community and much more. Registering an account is free - you have nothing to lose!

From the link:

This week, the United Nations Security Council failed to pass a draft proposal to form an independent investigative commission to look into the Nord Stream’s destruction. The proposal, submitted by Russia, would have required that the UN Secretary-General bring together a team of experts and international representatives to spearhead an investigation into the pipeline’s destruction, with a special focus on identifying the “perpetrators, sponsors, organizers and accomplices” responsible for the explosion.

No One Seems to Want to Investigate the Nord Stream Pipeline Sabotage Except Russia

As the world wonders who took out a major Russia-led energy project late last year, the UN this week signaled they have no interest in finding out.
gizmodo.com
 
Last edited by a moderator:
This is an interesting read. Take it fwiw and dyodd.

Secret Team: The Nord Stream Pipeline Sabotage Revisited​

APRIL 25, 2023 BY LFC NEWS 0 COMMENTS

Join us, as we take a deeper dive into the Nord Stream Pipeline sabotage story, and identifying the divers, the equipment, as well as those who benefitted from what many are calling ‘an act of war on European infrastructure’.


Freddie Ponton
21st Century Wire

Following the very damning report entitled, “How America Took Out The Nord Stream Pipeline,” published on February 8th by the legendary investigative journalist Seymour Hersh, the US authorities are still not budging from their official denial, and refuse to admit any form of involvement with the explosion which damaged the Nord Stream pipelines on Sept 26th of last year. As a result, Nord Stream sabotage theories deepen as shreds of evidence and intelligence leaks surrounding the sabotage of the pipelines have provided more questions than answers, with the New York Times even admitting, “It may be in no one’s interest to reveal more.” Contrary to the mainstream media consensus of the ‘unsolved mystery’ hinting towards the tenuous official conspiracy theory that Russia is somehow guilty of sabotaging its own pipeline project, we believe it’s very much in the public interest to expand on Hersh’s story by revealing more important details surrounding this top secret military operation carried out on the ocean floor of the Baltic Sea.

Despite their proximity to the event question, and being a primary stakeholder in the Nord Stream pipeline project, the German government has done little if anything in terms of a serious investigation into the unprecedented attack, with the German officials serving us a remake of the 9/11 story, albiet with a James Bond feel to it, involving fake Bulgarian passports and some trace of explosives on a 50-foot pleasure craft called ‘The Andromeda’. In his follow-up piece entitled, “The Cover-up,“ published on March 22nd, Hersh maintains this was a desperate cover story conjured by US intelligence in order to deflect from his bombshell revelations. According to the Germans, six men are believed to have planted C4 explosives on the seabed at a depth of 262 feet who, and when detonated, this triggered a blast registering 2.5 on the Richter scale. I am confident Hollywood will take full advantage of this compelling plot in combination with the even more spectacular claim from a US intelligence report suggesting that a ‘rogue’ pro-Ukrainian group carried out the attack on the Nord Stream pipelines. A blockbuster in the making, for sure.

Read the rest here:

 
From the link:

COPENHAGEN, May 3 (Reuters) – Three Russian navy ships were observed in the Baltic Sea in the area of the Nord Stream pipeline blasts prior to the sabotage that halted Russian gas flows to Europe in September last year, an investigation by four Nordic broadcasters has found.

The Russian navy ships were traced using satellite images and intercepted radio communication from the Russian fleet, the four broadcasters, Denmark’s DR, Norway’s NRK, Sweden’s SVT and Finland’s Yle, said.

Russian Navy Vessels Seen Near Nord Stream Before Blasts -Reports

COPENHAGEN, May 3 (Reuters) – Three Russian navy ships were observed in the Baltic Sea in the area of the Nord Stream pipeline blasts prior to the sabotage that halted Russian gas flows to...
gcaptain.com
 
What took them so long in sharing this news?
 
This will be the official ChatGPT answer to the who done it. I am this close to betting an SAE on it.
 
Here's an interesting article. Could more sabotage be coming? Prelude to WWIII?

From the link:

A senior NATO official has confirmed reports that Russia is using research vessels and covert "spy ship" trawlers to survey subsea cables and pipelines in Western Europe, potentially as a prelude to a future attack.

This week, NATO assistant secretary general for intelligence David Cattler told Politico and other outlets that Russia is actively engaged in mapping out civilian infrastructure in NATO countries, including underwater assets. He described the possibility of a Russian attack as a "significant risk," and noted that Moscow has all the assets it needs to carry out a strike if it wants to retaliate for Western support for Ukraine.

NATO Confirms Risk of Russian Attack on Subsea Infrastructure

A senior NATO official has confirmed reports that Russia is using research vessels and covert "spy ship" trawlers to survey subsea cables and pipeline...
maritime-executive.com
 


It seems like this is going to be another historical event that never gets a definitive conclusion IMO.
 
WASHINGTON, June 6 (Reuters) - The United States learned of a Ukrainian plan to attack the Nord Stream natural gas pipelines three months before they were damaged last September by underwater explosions, The Washington Post reported on Tuesday, citing leaked information posted online.

The CIA learned last June, through a European spy agency, that a six-person team of Ukrainian special operations forces intended to blow up the Russia-to-Germany project, the newspaper reported.

US had intelligence of Ukrainian plan to attack Nord Stream project -Washington Post

The United States learned of a Ukrainian plan to attack the Nord Stream natural gas pipelines three months before they were damaged last September by underwater explosions, The Washington Post reported on Tuesday, citing leaked information posted online.
www.reuters.com
 
"learned". yeah, that word incurs less culpability than "planned" or "facilitated".
 
The governments of Germany, Denmark and Sweden have issued a formal update on their separate Nord Stream blast investigations, and the German line of inquiry continues to focus on a suspicious sailing yacht that may have been used to transport saboteurs to the scene.

Germany Confirms That Explosive Residues Were Found on Nord Stream Yacht

The governments of Germany, Denmark and Sweden have issued a formal update on their separate Nord Stream blast investigations, and the German line of...
maritime-executive.com
 
What about the photo showing Putin's passport floating in the area?
 
Here's an interesting read:

German investigators would really like to talk to the Ukrainian man living in a single-family home in the northwest of Kyiv. His name is Rustem A., a 41-year-old businessman who owns several companies, including a pig farm and a heat pump manufacturer. Specifically, the Germans want to ask Rustem A. about an attack that shocked the world one year ago. On September 26, 2022, perpetrators blew up the Nord Stream 1 and 2 natural gas pipelines running along the floor of the Baltic Sea. The authorities in Germany think Rustem A. might be able to tell them a few things about the attack.

ZEIT ONLINE | Lesen Sie zeit.de mit Werbung oder im PUR-Abo. Sie haben die Wahl.

www.zeit.de
 
Jimmy Dore addresses the UN on the Nordstream attack.

A bit over nine minutes.


Responses from Russia, Japan, Gabon, Malta, Ecuador, China, Brasil and Switzerland can be found here:
 
FWIW (dyodd)

In partnership with the Washington Post, German outlet Der Spiegel claims that it has uncovered evidence linking a well-known Ukrainian intelligence operative with the attacks on Russia's Nord Stream 2 pipeline complex last year.

The massive underwater attack ruptured three out of the four pipelines in the network, greatly reducing the odds that Russia's subsea gas deliveries to Germany would ever be revived at full scale. The suspects have never been identified by Western investigators, at least not in a public forum.

Report Links Ukrainian Spy to Nord Stream Pipeline Attacks

In partnership with the Washington Post, German outlet Der Spiegel claims that it has uncovered evidence linking a well-known Ukrainian intelligence o...
maritime-executive.com
 
^^^^ then we should cut all aid to Ukraine. Otherwise we'd be supporting those that commit illegal acts and are responsible for an ecological disaster.
 
searcher said:
n partnership with the Washington Post, German outlet Der Spiegel claims that it has uncovered evidence linking a well-known Ukrainian intelligence operative with the attacks on Russia's Nord Stream 2 pipeline complex last year.
Click to expand...
Sure they did.... lil' buddy

 

Swedish prosecutor plans Nord Stream blast decision this week​

STOCKHOLM (Reuters) -The prosecutor leading Sweden's probe into the Nord Stream gas pipeline blasts in the Baltic Sea in 2022 plans to announce a decision this week on whether to drop the case, press charges or request that someone is detained, his office said on Monday.

More:

Swedish prosecutor plans Nord Stream blast decision this week

STOCKHOLM (Reuters) -The prosecutor leading Sweden's probe into the Nord Stream gas pipeline blasts in the Baltic Sea in 2022 plans to announce a decision this week on whether to drop the case, press charges or request that someone is detained, his office said on Monday. Sweden shortly after...
news.yahoo.com
 
I bet they come up with the wrong conclusion like they do economic data...

It'll be revised in a few years after Putin owns Ukraine and the war crimes trials commence.
 

Sweden ends Nord Stream sabotage probe, hands evidence to Germany​

February 7, 2024 6:29 AM EST

  • Sweden says no evidence its citizens involved in blasts
  • Plans to hand information it has gathered over to Germany
  • Russia says it is watching to see what Germany does
STOCKHOLM, Feb 7 (Reuters) - Sweden on Wednesday dropped its investigation into the explosions in 2022 on Nord Stream pipelines carrying Russian gas to Germany, saying it lacked jurisdiction in the case but had handed evidence it had uncovered over to German investigators.

The multi-billion dollar Nord Stream 1 and 2 pipelines transporting the gas under the Baltic Sea were ruptured by a series of blasts in the Swedish and Danish economic zones in September 2022, releasing vast amounts of methane into the air.

More:

 

Denmark ends probe into 'deliberate' Nord Stream pipeline blasts​

  • Denmark concludes Nord Stream explosion investigation
  • Police say explosions were deliberate sabotage
  • But evidence insufficient to pursue criminal case
  • Kremlin calls investigation situation 'absurd'
COPENHAGEN, Feb 26 (Reuters) - Denmark has dropped its investigation into the explosions in 2022 on the Nord Stream pipelines carrying Russian gas to Germany, police said on Monday, becoming the second nation to do so after Sweden closed its own inquiry.

The multi-billion dollar Nord Stream 1 and 2 pipelines transporting gas under the Baltic Sea were ruptured by a series of blasts in the Swedish and Danish economic zones in September 2022, releasing vast amounts of methane into the air.

The blasts occurred seven months after Russia launched a full-scale invasion of Ukraine, which triggered a wide range of Western economic and financial sanctions against Moscow.

"The investigation has led the authorities to conclude that there was deliberate sabotage of the gas pipelines. However, the assessment is that there are not sufficient grounds to pursue a criminal case in Denmark," a Copenhagen police statement said.

More:

 
Came across this by accident. Read through it and decided to post it mainly for entertainment / casual reading. Gotta love how anyone with a computer can become an internet investigator. Then again there's always the propaganda element in stuff like this. Who knows


Nordstream Sabotage - Mortymer´s hypothesis​

THE ONLY PUBLIC OPEN NORDSTREAM INVESTIGATION The dataset of this investigation shows: Primary crime suspect = Elements of the UK government. // Secondary (cover-up) crime = USA, top EU politicians. // 18-10-2022 BIDEN: "The world is closer to Armageddon than ever since the 1962 Cuban Missile Crisis" // Summary: Data show the UK almost started WW3. // "When exposing a crime is treated as committing a crime, you are being ruled by criminals" Snowden.

More:

Nordstream Sabotage - Mortymer´s hypothesis

nordstreambymortymer.blogspot.com
 
^^^ well of course they were " government backed". Anyone who thinks otherwise is a complete moron.
 

How Globalization Rose and Fell With Nord Stream​

The pipeline bringing Russian gas to Europe was once seen as a triumph for borderless business—but Putin’s invasion of Ukraine put an end to that fantasy.​


On Sept. 27, 2022, Solveig Artsman, a pensioner on the Swedish island of Gotland, woke up to terrible news. Nord Stream 1 and Nord Stream 2, the two pipelines built to bring Russian natural gas to Germany, had suddenly begun leaking in three places. Because both pipelines were filled with gas, large volumes of methane—a greenhouse gas far more harmful than carbon dioxide—were spreading into the sea and the atmosphere. A few hours later, Swedish authorities announced that a fourth leak had been detected.

A short while later, Sweden, Denmark, the European Commission, and the U.S. government announced the leaks were the result of sabotage. Whoever the culprit, the sabotage meant the dramatic end of the two pipelines, conceived at the height of globalization to supply Germany and other European countries with natural gas from Russia.

Artsman wasn’t just any citizen waking up to the terrible news. She was one of only a few people in Sweden who had objected to the construction of Nord Stream 1, the first of the two pipelines to be built. That was in mid-2007, and Artsman was a member of Gotland’s municipal council for the center-right Moderate Party. At that time, the Moderates also led Sweden’s center-right government coalition, a staunchly pro-business group of ministers who firmly believed in globalization. Then again, most people, regardless of ideology, seemed to believe in the virtue of closer commercial links between countries. And all over the world, trade was booming.

Read the rest:

How Globalization Rose and Fell With Nord Stream

The pipeline bringing Russian gas to Europe was once seen as a triumph for borderless business—but Putin’s invasion of Ukraine put an end to that…
foreignpolicy.com
 

Germany reportedly issues 1st arrest warrant related to 2022 Nord Stream pipeline blasts​

German prosecutors have issued a first arrest warrant in their investigation into the undersea explosions in 2022 that damaged the Nord Stream gas pipelines between Russia and Germany, according to a media report Wednesday. German authorities refused to comment.

German public broadcaster ARD, the daily Sueddeutsche Zeitung and the weekly Die Zeit said in a joint report that federal prosecutors obtained an arrest warrant in June against a Ukrainian man believed to have resided until recently in Poland. The reports, which did not cite sources, identified the man as Wolodymyr Z.

More:

MSN

www.msn.com
 
It was Gilligan, the Skipper too, the millionaire and his wife, the movie star and all the rest

 

A Drunken Evening, a Rented Yacht: The Real Story of the Nord Stream Pipeline Sabotage​

It was the kind of outlandish scheme that might bubble up in a bar around closing time.

In May of 2022, a handful of senior Ukrainian military officers and businessmen had gathered to toast their country’s remarkable success in halting the Russian invasion. Buoyed by alcohol and patriotic fervor, somebody suggested a radical next step: destroying Nord Stream.

After all, the twin natural-gas pipelines that carried Russian gas to Europe were providing billions to the Kremlin war machine. What better way to make Vladimir Putin pay for his aggression?

Just over four months later, in the small hours of Sept. 26, Scandinavian seismologists picked up signals indicating an underwater earthquake or volcanic eruption hundreds of miles away, near the Danish island of Bornholm. They were caused by three powerful explosions and the largest-ever recorded release of natural gas, equivalent to the annual CO2 emissions of Denmark.

More:

 

WSJ, real story of Nord Stream. Elensky, Kursk buffer zone. Ukraine in default. German recession​

35
 

WSJ Just Released "Details" On Who Blew Up Nord Stream Pipeline​

39
 

German officials claim Poland sabotaged investigation into Nord Stream explosions

A Polish official denied the accusation, calling it “completely unfounded.”
www.politico.eu
 
... Nord Stream insurers Lloyds & Arch... intend to prove in court that the government of Ukraine ordered the destruction. ...
Click to expand...

 
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Menu
Log in
Register
Cookies are required to use this site. You must accept them to continue using the site. Learn more…