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Goldhedge said:
You should ALL listen to this!

I took a LIBERAL, ANTI WAR Protester to see the truth in Donbass, and THIS Happened!​

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Brain Crash = Cognitive Dissonance ( Double Think )

I wish I could speak Russian as well as that young lady speaks English !

Did you all notice how well manicured that young lady's eyebrows were ? (/rhet.)
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Goldhedge said:
When the quiet part is said out loud and they go ballistic for him telling the truth...
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It's a matter of perspective. One could easily conclude that the old Putin ally gave Russian propaganda a big microphone and his viewpoint is not shared by the Italian government.
 
pmbug said:
Don't know what else you can call it when they are working with the Russian media.
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I don't see them working with Russian media.

If as you say Russian media is totally controlled, these folks sure speak their mind about what is going on.

As for wikipedia saying they 'work with/for' Russian media I'll believe that as much as I believe CNN and the MSM.

Nyet.... or нет for the Russian spies....
 
Goldhedge said:
I don't see them working with Russian media. ...
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Your Alex bros work for Russia News Now, RT, Voice of Russia, russia-insider.com and previously, Sputnik International:

BREAKING Liz Truss to resign as PM, & a new one will be appointed within the week.

As predicted by Alex Christoforou BREAKING Liz Truss to resign as PM, & a new one will be appointed within the week. This comes after 16 of her own lawmakers called on her to resign & after poll ratings showed her to be highly unpopular with conservatives. Truss had only been in the...
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Your gal Eva does work for RT and collaborates with journalists from Russian state media:

News, propaganda and confirmation bias

Oh, so now you enjoy Russian state media. Just posting what comes down the pike. I'm sure it's all over the BBC...? Edit by PMBug: I moved some posts here from another thread as this was not germaine to the original topic.
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Goldhedge said:
As for wikipedia saying they 'work with/for' Russian media I'll believe that as much as I believe CNN and the MSM.
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Follow the footnote source for the claim:

Eva Bartlett reports from Mariupol: “Ukraine forces used scorched earth tactics” | MR Online

Yes, there is destruction, that’s what happens when Ukrainian forces, and Nazis, embed in residential areas & occupy apartment buildings. It isn’t Raqqa, and if you aren’t aware of the U.S. illegal coalition in Syria’s full destruction of Raqqa, look that up.
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She did a lot of joint reporting with Russian journalist Roman Kosarev.
 
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Goldhedge said:
You can go, but it's by a circuitous route flying into Samakand Uzbekistan and then ...
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Samarkand ... one of the population centres of the Sogdians
Samarkand ... the origin of the Chinese surname Kang

the Samarkand Hotel London Air Strip One ... the place Jimi Hendrix died ... RIP

Hey Joe
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pmbug said:
Follow the footnote source for the claim:
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Not seeing it.

Monthly Review | An Independent Socialist Magazine

Monthly Review began publication in New York City in May 1949. The first issue featured the lead article “Why Socialism?” by Albert Einstein. From the beginning, Monthly Review spoke for a critical but spirited socialism, independent of any political organization. Read more at our about page.
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also, her graveyard report was spot on. That was when the west 'reported' there were mass graves an 'obvious' war crime by Russia.

So she went to the site and interviewed the grave diggers... and exposed the 'report' as propaganda.

Her reporting doesn't imply she's lying about it. In fact I've seen her videos expose many lies of the west.

OBTW Did you know that Putin has cancer? He's nearly dead. One foot in the grave already! Probably has syphilis and gonorrhea too...
 
pmbug said:
If as you say Russian media is totally controlled, these folks sure speak their mind about what is going on.
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That video...

"I took a LIBERAL, ANTI WAR Protester to see the truth in Donbass, and THIS Happened!"​

... was genuine. A scripted "controlled" version would be far less candid and appear contrived. If it was contrived is was the best acting I have seen.

As for trusting Russian Media over US media... frankly I would rate them as about as trustworthy as each other... as in NOT. US media is particularity egregious... our media is pretty heavily spun as well. Propaganda is a high art-form these days!
 
pmbug said:
It amazes me how folks can be so suspicious and dismissive of the MSM or any (non-MSM) source that is west aligned
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I personally know people injured because of the MSM lies, and others here personally know people who have died. The MSM lies like rug. I can also tell you, as someone with a network of friends in various countries, that what the MSM reports about foreign countries is very often false. Start talking to people who are actually on the ground overseas and this will quickly become apparent. Everything the MSM spouts is a narrative design to push society towards certain goals.

Does Russian propaganda exist? Yes, of course. But, Russian state media isn't funded to degree the MSM is. They have less resources to fabricate lies with, and Russians are very suspicious from the Stalin era. When it comes to Ukraine, there is a plethora of evidence
that the US helped the 2014 coup to overthrow Viktor Yanukovych. That same year, the Kiev government sent soldiers to attack Donbass and Crimea. That's how this whole thing started.

Let me share this with you. It's a short (5 minute) audio recording from 2014 of "our" State Department people rigging Ukrainian politics. The same woman, Victoria Nuland, also threaten the Nord Stream pipeline earlier this year.

Nuland rigging the Ukrainian government:


Nuland threatening the Nord Stream pipeline:
 
approximately 17,000 ( depending on one’s source ) people in the Donbas area have been killed since the coup , more than US casualties in Iraq and Afghanistan combined
 
ex military Russian American discusses Russian strategy - if anyone can be considered as 'propaganda' it is Andrei Martyanow, however he presents a technical historical aspect to Russia vs the West nobody else has from a military knowledge basis.

Here he talks about cruise missiles.

Decision Trees​

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iEarlGrey is a Brit who lives in St. Petersburg. Married to a Russian woman. He discusses current news about Ukraine & Russia.

US & UK will NUKE POLAND & Blame RUSSIA Claim Russian Media​

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Brian has a penchant for explaining the complex with elan. Here he exposes the west's propaganda. He lives in Taiwan with his wife and child.

Russia's 300,000-Strong Mobilization: Facts and Fiction​

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France to Train "2,000" Ukrainian Troops

Reuters claims (https://www.reuters.com/article/ukraine-crisis-france-arms-idUSKBN2RA0G6):

“The president... has approved a training plan that will allow up to 2,000 Ukrainian soldiers to be welcomed in France,” he said. “They will be assigned to our units for several weeks,” he said, adding that military training for the use of Caesar howitzers had previously been offered to Ukrainian soldiers.

It will take weeks to train 2,000 Ukrainians - it will only take days for them to die on the battlefield.

Another measure meant to prolong the war and get more killed - but a measure that will do nothing to change the ultimate outcome.

 
Everybody better get some rest... you're going to need your strength to wave that Ukrainian flag all year long in 2023. Read the latest from Jacob Dreizin:

Suitcase With No Handle
Published by dreizinreport on October 21, 2022

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You ain’t seen nothin’, until you’ve seen the below video.​
I’ve sat on this for a long time.​
This is from an elite Kiev nightclub, 2014, shortly after the coup, revolution, or whatever you want to call it.​

  • They are serving a cake with a Russian flag and a realistic, live-size “Russian infant”, lying on its back atop the flag.
  • The server cuts the baby from groin to head. People love it.
  • One girl asks if the diaper is edible, another says she wants the tummy.
  • One guy jokes, “Putin, help!” while another shouts pleadingly, “Ruuuussia, Ruuuuussia!!!“…..
  • …..indicating the baby is the people of the Donbass (Donetsk and Lugansk) and other Russians or pro-Russians in southeast Ukraine, who were hoping for the Russian army to move in at that time.
  • There’s more than just a few people here, it’s packed.
  • Of course, like everyone in Kiev (back then, anyway), they’re all speaking Russian.

Millions of idiots say Putin is Hitler—no, this is Hitler.​
These are literal “supremacists”… not of the fake alleged supremacist, Trumper variety.​
The country should have been peacefully split in 2014.​
Well, it’s being split now, better late than never.​


The video and more at the link:

Suitcase With No Handle

In the “corrections” department, Tulsi Gabbard did NOT vote to impeach Trump a second time. She was newly unemployed at that point, sorry. But, we know how she WOULD have voted, hah! We…
thedreizinreport.com
 
It's difficult to admit, but the US is supporting NAZI's

Ukraine has been the Deep State's corrupt money laundering operation disguised as a State to "fit in" to world politics.

It's like a mafia protection racket.

"Lots of windows get broken in this neighborhood... you better pay for insurance to make sure your windows don't get broken..."

And Brandon is right in the middle of it with his son running interference....
 

Berlusconi, Putin invented SMO. NYT, six weeks to take Kherson. US army ready to enter Ukraine. U/1​

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Always an interesting conversation you won't hear from the MSM

Boris plots return, but regime change plotters want Keir Starmer​

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Effect of sanctions today

Center of Moscow is bustling with people!​

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Patrick Lancaster brings you the front line you won't see on the MSM!

Ukraine Shells School, Church, Kindergarten & Cultural center Russia & the Western Media Ignores It​

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There has historic meeting was taking place between the Russian and US defense ministers, Russia’s Sergei Shoigu and the United State's Lloyd Austin, to discuss Ukraine. At almost the same time as that meeting Ukraine launched a major attack on the center of a small border village in Russia, Murom Belgorod Region Russia, directly hitting a school, church, kindergarten and cultural center. Of course this will never be shown in the western main stream media because they will only show what benefits Ukraine. In this report I am on the ground at the site of the attacks showing you what the western mainstream media will not

Some many things are escalating the situation in Ukraine fast. Not least of which is Biden trying to widen the divide in the USA by bashing the republicans and on the war in Ukraine saying the republicans “said that if they win, they’re not likely to fund – to help – continue to fund Ukraine, the Ukrainian war against the Russians,” and “These guys(Republicans) don’t get it. It’s a lot bigger than Ukraine – it’s Eastern Europe. It’s NATO. It’s real, serious, serious consequential outcomes. They have no sense of American foreign policy.”

Among other things, the USA Secretary of State Antony Blinken Says Iran May Be Sending More Drones and that Iran already has soldiers on the ground in Crimea involved in the fighting. With last week Ukraine reported that over 30% of the Electric infrastructure being destroyed by Russian attacks so not only is Ukraine scrambling to keep the electricity on but intern the internet, train, system, and the over all military-industrial complex.
 
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Patrick Lancaster brings you the front line you won't see on the MSM!

Ukraine Shells Russian Orphan Housing Project In Russia​

Ukraine has been intensifying its attacks on the Belgorod Region of Russia. In this Special Report I show you how Ukraine forces shell a Russian Orphan Housing Project, Mall and sports center in the village of Shebekino in the Belgorod region of Russia.
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This is probably the best explanation of why Ukraine. History lesson.

EXCLUSIVE INTERVIEW - RUSSIA DELUSIONAL RE US OFFERS OF FRIENDSHIP​

Georgiy Muradov, is a Russian politician, statesman, and diplomat. He is currently the Deputy Chairman of the Council of Ministers of Crimea, and the Permanent Representative of the Republic of Crimea under the President of the Russia since 7 August 2014.

We talked about Russian Orthodoxy, Russian spirit, ethic diversity, Crimean referendum, the conflict in Ukraine, and the larger, geopolitical scenario. A new, multipolar world is emerging.

60m 2.0X speed
 
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iEarlGrey covers the latest news

US Deploys 101st Airbourne "Prepared To Enter Ukraine". Kherson IMMEDIATE Evacuation​

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Joe King said:
That's the same 2/3rds that could be easily convinced that it is in their best interests to load a select portion of their fellow citizens into boxcars.
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The American Revolution: 1/3 wanted to be free of Britain, 1/3 wanted to be loyal to the crown, 1/3 were fence sitters until forced to take a side.
 
Goldhedge said:
iEarlGrey is a Brit who lives in St. Petersburg. Married to a Russian woman. He discusses current news about Ukraine & Russia.

US & UK will NUKE POLAND & Blame RUSSIA Claim Russian Media​

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Sadly, I wouldn't put it past our rulers to actually do something like that. I hope the cabal is afraid of radiation enough to prevent something like this, but I don't know. They've already killed millions world-wide via giving the wrong treatment and dangerous injections, so why wouldn't they toss nukes around?
 
101st Airborne Rangers

Ex-CIA Petraeus, US army may directly intervene. Elensky, world must hit Russia. Boris bromance. U/1​

 
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