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Sailing into Fire in Pacific Palisades - Los Angeles​

Jan 12, 2025

We take a break from tech to show you a close up view of the burnt out husk of the Pacific Palisades neighborhood in Los Angeles. Wiped out by the fire that started on January 7, 2025. This was recorded on Saturday Jan 12. By this time, the Palisades fire took this neighborhood from the map. Wiped it out. And now has spread to the opposite direction and going to more populated areas. By this time the fire was at Mandeville Canyon in Brentwood. And the areas near the I-405 Freeway including Brentwood, and Bel-Air have been evacuated.


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Can Seawater Fight Fires in SoCal | Why No Water | Fireboats | Damage From Seawater​

Jan 12, 2025 #wildfire #fireboats #palisadesfire

Seawater in Southern California Wildfires
In this episode, Sal Mercogliano—a maritime historian at Campbell University (@campbelledu) and former merchant mariner — discusses the use of seawater and how it can be utilized to fight the wildfires in southern California.


18:43

00:00 Introduction
01:21 Why SoCal Ran Out of Water
06:04 Fireboats - How to get Seawater out of the Sea
08:50 Seawater corrodes fire equipment
11:54 Seawater does not provide enough cooling as freshwater
12:33 Seawater harms plant life and will leave the soil barren
15:07 Difficulty in Fighting This Wildfire
17:25 Conclusion

- Here’s why firefighters can’t use ocean water to put out the deadly LA wildfires https://thetab.com/2025/01/09/heres-w...
- Can firefighters use ocean water to douse wildfire blazes? https://www.kxan.com/news/national-ne...
- Why Doesn’t Los Angeles Use Seawater in Its Fire Hydrants? https://x.com/amuse/status/1877390791...
 

This bears exploring. All the conspiracy types - who in fact are often at least partially correct, these days - all point to how SOME houses burned and OTHERS did not.

Directed radiation, say some. Blue roofs, say others.

No...since we watched this first fire since it started in ten acres (probably by Glow Bull Warming, a 28-year-old Venezuelan "immigrant" now with nothing to do) and had been predicted for years and especially the months previous...no directed-energy satellite involved. Just dry tinder and hot winds.

So, why? Watch how a fire unfolds. CONTRARY to common belief, the tongues of the fire don't spread fire, like me touching you with ink on my fingers. The flames are in fact hot combustible gases, released from organic material being heated. The gases are past the flash point, and as they rise up, they burn. Which is why frequently, in a spreading fire, you see grey or black smoke, and then it explodes in a ball of flame.

So. The house next door has gone up - sparks on the roof from brush or grass burning, whatever. The HEAT hits the adjacent structure. First plastic starts melting, then the paint darkens and softens, and then, edges of what wood or asphalt roofing is there, erupt into fire. First on the outside - but the heat spreads through the wall, and the interior wall starts smoking, and igniting.

If the adjacent structure is concrete, or with fire-resistant material on the outside (and insulated to prevent the heat from getting inside) there won't be any fire. If PART of the structure is built differently, as we see with some commercial row fires, then the fire stops.

Cars? It was not unusual to see a couple of cars in a yard. One burned, one not. Now, remember, these cars were outside, and on concrete pads. The actual fire didn't come up to them.

They got hot. One began to burn from the heat, and the other, perhaps in a breeze path between two buildings, or otherwise shielded from the heat...got hot but not to a critical level.

Fire is strange that way, especially structure fires in winds. I worked with rural volunteer firemen - not AS firemen, we just worked at the same place. Fires happen. They would leave when the call came out and then, hours later, they'd be back with stories.

Second stories or attics burning off, were not uncommon. We had a major lake in the area, and this encouraged winds. To see two exterior walls untouched, and other parts of the house burned to the footing, was not at all uncommon.

All these "Aftermath" videos are interesting demonstrations of that - but only if you're open to how this isn't scientifically supernatural, but only the way large fires can behave.
 
I live in a community in FL that burned significamtly in the late 90s before I moved here. There was no city water everybody had a well.

Dry vegetation and no hydrants circled into a perfect fire storm. Since then the city installed hydrants and check them. They also have regular burns of the cabbage palms and pine trees in the savannahs so as not to repeat.
 
Most of the world builds out of concrete. Only the Americans get cheap ass wood homes and think they are great.
Not the material, but how it was used/built/designed.

My Buffalo home had the front living space paneled in knotty-pine planking, varnished. I'll take that over poured concrete walls that sweat in cold weather, do not insulate from what's on the other side, and lend to decor that I'll call Twentieth-Century Institutional.

It's the cheap construction, 18-inch-spaced studs of unseasoned cheap wood (as available) covered with particleboard, plastic wrap, and vinyl "siding." On the other side, you have China-sourced drywall, and carpet and furniture that are allegedly flame retardant.

Yeah, in the heat of an immense outdoor fire, that construction is going to go up like a match head.
 
Watched some stuff on CNN last night with a reporter inside the fire areas. Some areas are gone. Don't know what it would take to rebuild or if it would be viable to rebuild. Lives totally in disarray. Some may recover, some may not. Death toll at 24 and climbing. Dear God.

This is when I'd like to see the military mobilized to help Americas.
 
The good news is no need to worry about controlled burns for awhile. Fire risk should also be lower for the foreseeable future.
I'm not sure I would want to rebuild in an area that is known to be mismanaged by incompetent DEI hires. I suspect many are going to take the insurance money and move to another state. Whats the land value on a charred piece of dirt that no one wants to rebuild on?
 
On a different note.........Once the rebuilding starts what impact will it have on the price of building materials?
 
Captain Hairgel has already announced that he has a team planning LA 2.0. I'm betting that the burned areas will be condemned and that multiple 15-minute cities will be built instead. High-density apartment buildings with commissaries to house the prisoners who wish to remain there. These have been the democrat's wet dream for years now.
 
... I suspect many are going to take the insurance money and move to another state. Whats the land value on a charred piece of dirt that no one wants to rebuild on?

If social media aint lying to me, something like 80% of more of these homes (even the millionaire mansions), don't have fire coverage. Insurance companies dropped the policies months ago (see OP of this thread).

Also, Cali law gives land owners only 2 years to rebuild if they want to keep their grandfathered (homestead limited?) property tax rates. After two years, property tax rates lose grandfathered status. Build or sell, landowners are doubly screwed.
 
Prices have been grossly inflated for decades out in Ca. If you are wealthy enough to self insure I cant imagine you rebuilding in the charred zone. The land values were high because of all the other mansions in the area. If they all walk away the land values should go down tremendously.
If most are uninsured then who picks up the tab for cleanup? I suppose Ca could sue to force the landowners to clean up but that could be tied up in litigation for years. Imagine a state being so incompetent that they cant do the job they are hired to do and then turning around and suing the private owners to clean up the mess they created. Should be interesting to see how it plays out if the fed gov doesn't step up and pay for everything.
That brings up another issue of the fed does step up and pay for everything. Why would anyone ever buy homeowners insurance? If 80% didn't have coverage were they fully paid for with no mortgage? If not then the banks are forked.
 
According to Wikipedia, L. A. has the largest Jewish area after N.Y. and Israel...17.5% of the city. This is going to get interesting. Google it.
 
Los Angeles Mayor Karen Bass (D for DUMBASS) reportedly awarded government workers with major wage increases before making cuts to the city’s fire department budget.

“Mayor Karen Bass’s budget cuts to the city’s fire department, enacted just months ago amid warnings about the city’s deteriorating finances, stand out as a striking example of misplaced priorities,” The City Journal reported on Friday:

The cuts stemmed from a budget crisis triggered by her administration’s decision to reward city employees with rich contracts and benefits—even as it dismissed worries that the reductions would hurt services. “Predictions that city services will be impossible to deliver,” deputy mayor Zach Seidl told the press, “are simply false.” Few public statements have aged as poorly—or as hauntingly—as this one.

Shortly after taking office, Bass began negotiating with public sector unions over expiring contracts. Early last year, those talks resulted in more than two dozen agreements with unions representing the city’s civilian employees, guaranteeing wage hikes of between 20 percent and 25 percent over five years. The contracts raised the minimum wage for city employees from $20 to $25 per hour and also contained rich benefits, including allowing workers to cash in 100 percent of their unused sick time when they retire—an increasingly rare perk in the private sector. An analysis by the city’s administrative officer said the deal would cost Los Angeles $3.5 billion over the life of the contracts. A similar multiyear deal with police unions was projected to add another $1 billion to costs.
 
California had just passed new tax laws, if your home burns down and you don’t rebuild within 2 years (impossible in California) you lose your tax basis. Your property taxes SKYROCKET to the new values of the property“Think about a home that was purchased many years ago for $5 million. Let's say they were paying $65,000 a year in property taxes. Property goes up a lot over time, especially in these areas. Maybe the value today is $30 million. They go to rebuild it. If it was not, if they couldn't transfer the tax basis, you're looking at like $400,000 a year that they would have to pay”“In 2020, California voters approved a bill that basically said that if your house burns down in a fire, you can transfer the tax basis of that property to something that you buy or something that you build. But you only have two years to do it.”So some of the most expensive homes and properties the entire world now will get reassessed to pay maximum property tax values….


 
That sounds like another excuse to drag out permitting...for cleanup and then construction.

Elsewhere I've read, plausibly, that it will take about five years worth of legal folderol to get construction underway. First, sites have to be cleaned of rubble - with hazmat mitigation, and soil tests. Then architects have to be contracted. Even if a design comes off-the-shelf, an adaption has to be engineered to uneven lot landscape - and then run by the Planning or Zoning office.

Then, construction - and every step of the way, you'll need environmental and structural supervision. Now, remember, 100,000 of these construction projects potentially will be underway. You know the connected Elites will be moved first in line; and then as the Save-The-Whales idiots start screaming, the government will react with moar roadblocks for those behind.

My guess is, this changes everything. Now just wait for A Fish Called Karen, to announce that right now's an EXCELLENT time to start a Planned Sustainable Community right here - IOW, a 15-Minute City-prison.

How convenient. I don't think this was a HAARP job, but it's strange how so much evil and destruction works to benefit these sub-idiots.
 
If social media aint lying to me, something like 80% of more of these homes (even the millionaire mansions), don't have fire coverage. Insurance companies dropped the policies months ago (see OP of this thread).

Also, Cali law gives land owners only 2 years to rebuild if they want to keep their grandfathered (homestead limited?) property tax rates. After two years, property tax rates lose grandfathered status. Build or sell, landowners are doubly screwed.

I'd like to see the part of the lawsuits to follow that allow for information discovery. You know, like how did all these companies just happen to know when to cancel the policies? Fraud might just make those companies more liable than they think.

Of course by then the derivatives will likely have blown up and it won't matter.
 
There's big bucks at stake here, so I would imagine there will be a lot of lawyers looking for any angle to grab a pound of flesh.
 
There's big bucks at stake here, so I would imagine there will be a lot of lawyers looking for any angle to grab a pound of flesh.
Already one group has filed suit against California Edison.

On ZH. I saw it on another computer; don't have a link handy; but I think it's pinned to the top.
 

Celebrity Homes Lost in the Los Angeles Fires​

Jan 13, 2025 #recollectionroad #movies #tv

As wildfires persist across Los Angeles, devastation is widespread. High profile celebrities inhabit many of the multi-million dollar homes that dot the region. Here are some of their homes before and after the fires.


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Rumor has it...

Interesting history on Karen Bass that I didn't know. Little communist grew up to be mayor.

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The Los Angeles fires are a well-timed military operation to burn it down.

Notice the timing & preparation:
The fire fighting budget was cut.
Reservoirs were drained.
Fire insurance was canceled.
The mayor left town the night before.
The emergency broadcast system was hacked.
Notice the planning & coordination.
 
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