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Related. Fire talk starts around the 4 min mark.

Surfing During the LA Fires: Waves, Smoke, and Hope​

Jan 14, 2025 LOS ANGELES

I filmed this episode in Los Angeles during the recent wildfires, where surfers braved smoky skies and ash-filled winds to catch waves and share their stories. Over four days, I captured stunning footage of surfers in action and conducted heartfelt interviews about how the fires have affected their lives, the community, and the coastal environment.


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Big question here. Nothing to see, can listen in one tab, play around the forum in a different tab. 17 mins long.

The Cost of the LA Fires: Will Insurance Cover the Devastation? | Amanpour and Company​

Jan 14, 2025 #amanpourpbs

As Californians lose their homes and their livelihoods, finances will become a crucial issue for many people needing to rebuild and carry on. Bloomberg Business reporter Leslie Kaufman says this is an "existential test" for the state's insurance system. She tells Hari Sreenivasan what it might mean for Americans as we face a future of increasingly extreme weather events.
Originally aired on January 14, 2025

 
searcher said:
Big question here. Nothing to see, can listen in one tab, play around the forum in a different tab. 17 mins long.

The Cost of the LA Fires: Will Insurance Cover the Devastation? | Amanpour and Company​

Jan 14, 2025 #amanpourpbs

As Californians lose their homes and their livelihoods, finances will become a crucial issue for many people needing to rebuild and carry on. Bloomberg Business reporter Leslie Kaufman says this is an "existential test" for the state's insurance system. She tells Hari Sreenivasan what it might mean for Americans as we face a future of increasingly extreme weather events.
Originally aired on January 14, 2025

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A warming planet? Hard to believe as I sit here during one of the coldest winters in decades. There are lots of problems. One of them is a bunch of idiots believing in manmade climate change. If they simply looked at the records over the last 10,000 years they would see out planet is actually cooling, not warming.
Another problem is fractional reserve banking lending gazillions of dollars in a fictional price scheme for the housing market. Take away the 30 year mortgage and prices are 10-20% of where they are now.
And finally, of course Schiff and other politicians want to nationalize this. After all, taxpayers are just sitting on endless supplies of wealth.
 

$2 billion Powerball jackpot winner lost one of his three multi-million dollar homes in the LA wildfires​

One of at least three houses bought by a $2 billion lottery winner has been destroyed by the Los Angeles wildfires. One other home appears safe for now and the status of the third is unknown.

When he won a record-breaking $2 billion Powerball jackpot in 2023, Edwin Castro began spending that money wildly, buying (among other things) a number of homes in California. Now, at least one of those is ashes, one of many victims of the wildfires burning in Los Angeles.

More:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/rea...S&cvid=5aafa5ef2120485d97b2940ab27fe64c&ei=30
 


Jose Gerardo Escobar attempted to start a fire on January 10th, around 11:30 pm at Pioneer Park near the foothills of Azusa, California.

GPS connected Escobar with the accused propane torch arsonist Juan Manuel Sierra-Leyva in the same immediate vicinity on 11 occasions.

Both men are associated with two foot soldiers of the Sinaloa cartel and a number of border invasion facilitating NGOs.

The corrupt media will drive a narrative that Jose Gerardo Escobar was not connected to the major fires, but that’s only because he got caught.

We also connected a third man who was subsequently arrested in Irwindale, California, on Sunday for arson.

Roughly 16 miles away from Altadena where the deadly Eaton Fire continues to rage.

Firefighters were responding to a small brush fire in Irwindale when they witnessed Ruben Montes, 29, starting blazes in the area, Irwindale police have confirmed he was detained by officers at the scene and ultimately arrested for arson.
 
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But but but...won't all that SALT WATER destroy the Earf? You can't fight fires with salt water! The Science SAID SO! That's WHY we wouldn't let pumpers run hose lines to the waterfront and maybe put out some beachfront fires!
 
In 2014, Prop 1 voters approved a $7.5 billion water bond with $2.7 billion for new water storage facilities.

A full decade later, none have been completed.

Just like the $24 billion CA committed last year to eradicate homelessness, and now the money is missing and the homeless population is skyrocketing.

The Dems fully caused the hellscape that has become CA.

Truthfully, at this point I actually hope they keep voting for this shit. Let them rot in the consequences of their stupidity every day.

May the good ones get out before it’s too late.

 
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How the 'miracle' Malibu mansion survived LA wildfires while homes on both sides were destroyed​

The Los Angeles wildfires has devastated much of the city over the last week.

Over 130,000 people have been evacuated from their homes, the Pacific Palisades area is near-flattened, 24 people are confirmed dead, and questions are being raised about what went wrong to cause such devastation.

But, there's now another detail that's piqued the public's interest: Why did some houses survive, despite being surrounded by the charred remains of others?

One of those is a $9 million Malibu beachfront mansion belonging to retired waste management CEO, David Steiner.

More:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/rea...S&cvid=850d94a846ca4e8bb752eacc531e6542&ei=20
 

What Happens When Your House Burns Down and You Still Have a Mortgage?​

The Los Angeles wildfires destroyed thousands of structures across residential havens of the city. Borrowers whose homes burned down are still on the hook for monthly mortgage payments in the long run, but might be able to get temporary relief.

What options do borrowers have?​

Homeowners usually have the option to pause mortgage payments for as much as a year if they are impacted by a natural disaster.

This is called forbearance. Mortgage companies are required to offer it on the roughly 40% of loans backed by Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. Loans backed by the Federal Housing Administration and the Department of Veterans Affairs have similar guidance. Forbearance is often doled out in three- or six-month increments.

More:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/rea...S&cvid=001da03a159444a598c58fde2e14f268&ei=71
 
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Post in thread 'Real Estate and foreclosure thread'

What Happens To Your Property Taxes and Mortgage When Your House Burns Down?​

Jan 15, 2025

With so many homes lost to the fires in LA but also other natural disasters that happen across the country. What actually happens to your property taxes and your mortgage when your house burns down or maybe it is swept away by a hurricane. What then?


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Goldhedge said:
In 2014, Prop 1 voters approved a $7.5 billion water bond with $2.7 billion for new water storage facilities.

A full decade later, none have been completed.

Just like the $24 billion CA committed last year to eradicate homelessness, and now the money is missing and the homeless population is skyrocketing.

The Dems fully caused the hellscape that has become CA.
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For once, the people paying the price are EXACTLY the people who foolishly set themselves UP for this.

With their DEI mayor, and with their Royal-Family pretty-boy governor.

For with the slow-but-permanent takeover of the party that advances like mold growth, destroying everything it touches.

It's rare that the harm caused, touches those who caused it. Tech-oligarchs who give billions in dark money to the Stupid Party and its candidates, don't worry about the money-printing inflation - they're at the head of the line in seigniorage.

But this time, with Calimexico already out of the budget of the average American who might want to live there...all these multimillion-dollar cottages going up, are THEIRS. Exactly. They paid a lot to get a little, if they bought in the last twenty years. If they had the property in the family longer, they were land-wealthy - but only on paper. Already the cost of living has exploded around them. Now it's the cost of rebuilding, and against a timeline to preserve their legacy tax liability...and while dealing with environmental laws and shortages of workers who can afford to live or work in California.
 
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$2 billion Powerball jackpot winner lost one of his three multi-million dollar homes in the LA wildfires​

One of at least three houses bought by a $2 billion lottery winner has been destroyed by the Los Angeles wildfires. One other home appears safe for now and the status of the third is unknown.

When he won a record-breaking $2 billion Powerball jackpot in 2023, Edwin Castro began spending that money wildly, buying (among other things) a number of homes in California. Now, at least one of those is ashes, one of many victims of the wildfires burning in Los Angeles.

More:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/rea...S&cvid=5aafa5ef2120485d97b2940ab27fe64c&ei=30
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Soon to be another broke idiot. A lucky one at that.
 
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A good read.

The question not fully answered is, what happens to a region that finally drives out all its Deplorable Garbage? Nobody, the author notes, is maintaining the infrastructure properly. Who will pick up the trash, deliver the mail, repair homes - beyond this fire damage?

I have had a little experience with Aspen in summer, from 30 years ago when I lived in Denver. Aspen had a housing shortage - basically, NO housing for people not millionaires, not property owners, not guests at an oligarchs' venue. My first time there, with my Westfalia camper, I discovered the high-school gym was open to "campers" - camping out in the Forest Service areas. Nice, I thought.

Then I found out why. All the hash-house waitresses and hotel bartenders and bellmen, were living in tents or campers out in the woods. Winters, the ski resorts would house employees; but that wasn't a summer option.

But Aspen is tiny. The whole of Los Angeles cannot be run this way. As these midwits with more money than brains, will have to learn the hard way.
 

Owners of a fire-resistant house hope LA rebuilds smarter | REUTERS​

Jan 15, 2025 #LosAngelesWildfires #Reuters #wildfire

This house in Los Angeles, owned by environmentalists Karina Maher and her husband Michael Kovac, was built with an emphasis on sustainability and wildfire resilience.


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Just what they need.

MOAR REGULATION.

My take: The lack of fireproof structures, didn't cause this; and imposing them won't solve this. Fire sweeping through a neighborhood is costly and destructive, even if the basic residential building survives.

It may be a fool's lot to build/own a wooden-frame structure in that sort of environment. But it may well be that those concrete or solid-walled structures, while not destroyed, will need costly renovation. Smoke and heat damage will be considerable, and how many of those homes had all the glass remain intact?

The PROBLEM is, BASIC FIRE-RISK MITIGATION stopped. A building code is part of this, but only part. Competent building inspectors, underbrush mitigation, and firemen who can fight fires, not check DEI quotas, are other aspects.
 
More clear Evidence from older fires that these are in Fact Microwave attacks. It's the metal or more conductive areas that are Starting the fires.

 
It was arson, all right.

But not any space radiation.

There's enough records of homeless bums and MS-13 gang members, starting fires, for cooking or for pyromania, over time. This was bound to happen - because no one wanted to put any effort into mitigation.

They WANTED this, it seems. Maybe not understanding how devastating it would be; but it is what it is.

What it is not, is space radiation. I say that not as a "denier" but because we SAW it unfold. Planes were landing, radio communications going on, everything normal as this was starting. Except, of course, the Dyke-DEI Fire Departments were slow to respond to the initial Palisades call - busy in a Pride meeting, I guess.

This was just plain fire chemistry. Nothing abnormal - not even the Santa Anna winds.
 
Those fires simply could be cover for the real attacks. And causes more chaos and more fires to spread resources even thinner.
 
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It was arson, all right.

But not any space radiation.

There's enough records of homeless bums and MS-13 gang members, starting fires, for cooking or for pyromania, over time. This was bound to happen - because no one wanted to put any effort into mitigation.

They WANTED this, it seems. Maybe not understanding how devastating it would be; but it is what it is.

What it is not, is space radiation. I say that not as a "denier" but because we SAW it unfold. Planes were landing, radio communications going on, everything normal as this was starting. Except, of course, the Dyke-DEI Fire Departments were slow to respond to the initial Palisades call - busy in a Pride meeting, I guess.

This was just plain fire chemistry. Nothing abnormal - not even the Santa Anna winds.
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Explain why the trees didn't burn.
 
Voodoo said:
Explain why the trees didn't burn.
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Typical forest-fire behavior.

The underbrush was dead and dry.

The trees are full of moisture - sap, etc. That's an elemental part of life.

Anyone who's lived in a wooded area, understands that - and the nature of fires, especially natural fires.
 

LA Wildfires: How To Protect YOUR Home, Build Fire Rated House​

Read FEMA publication: "Guidance on the design and construction of eaves, overhangs, and soffits in wildfire zones for new and existing buildings": https://firesafemarin.org/wp-content/...
Read the Passive House Brochure from the International Passive House Association: https://www.passivehouse-internationa...
Fire Safe Marin is a great resourceful site from Marin County, Read their Harden You Home menus articles: https://firesafemarin.org/00:00
Introduction to protecting your house from wildfires

02:01 Urban sprawl into dangerous Santa Ana windy mountains
03:45 LEarning what catches fire first on a house
04:21 Why Tom Hank's house survived the fire, but $83 million house next door did not
04:51 Austin Russel's 83 million dollar mansion burnt down
08:59 Fire entry points into the $83 million mansion that caused it to burn down
14:30 Protecting your house, roof, soffits from wildfires and embers
15:10 Fire and Ember testing different roof soffit designs
16:36 FEMA's Home Builder's Guide To Construction in Wildfire Zones
18:27 Tips on fire-resistant roofs
23:27 fire resistant windows and doors
26:32 Passive Home design house in Pacific Palisades survived the fire
30:49 5 guidelines for fireproof passive house
32:04 Tips for building a fire-resistant new house

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Related.

Startup aims to speed up housing with faster, sturdier prefab homes​

Jan 19, 2025

We’ve been following the journey of Cover, a Los Angeles-based prefab home builder, almost since their inception a decade ago. Their goal has always been ambitious: to rethink how homes are built by combining precision engineering, factory production, and modern design.

You can read mor below the vid on yourube. Includes a link to the company mentioned.

Startup aims to speed up housing with faster, sturdier​

 
Casey Jones said:
Typical forest-fire behavior.

The underbrush was dead and dry.

The trees are full of moisture - sap, etc. That's an elemental part of life.

Anyone who's lived in a wooded area, understands that - and the nature of fires, especially natural fires.
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Sure, not even those flammable leaves go up. But the houses are gone.

Or how about this magical blue van.

 
Goldhedge said:

LA Wildfires: How To Protect YOUR Home, Build Fire Rated House​

Read FEMA publication: "Guidance on the design and construction of eaves, overhangs, and soffits in wildfire zones for new and existing buildings": https://firesafemarin.org/wp-content/...
Read the Passive House Brochure from the International Passive House Association: https://www.passivehouse-internationa...
Fire Safe Marin is a great resourceful site from Marin County, Read their Harden You Home menus articles: https://firesafemarin.org/00:00
Introduction to protecting your house from wildfires

02:01 Urban sprawl into dangerous Santa Ana windy mountains
03:45 LEarning what catches fire first on a house
04:21 Why Tom Hank's house survived the fire, but $83 million house next door did not
04:51 Austin Russel's 83 million dollar mansion burnt down
08:59 Fire entry points into the $83 million mansion that caused it to burn down
14:30 Protecting your house, roof, soffits from wildfires and embers
15:10 Fire and Ember testing different roof soffit designs
16:36 FEMA's Home Builder's Guide To Construction in Wildfire Zones
18:27 Tips on fire-resistant roofs
23:27 fire resistant windows and doors
26:32 Passive Home design house in Pacific Palisades survived the fire
30:49 5 guidelines for fireproof passive house
32:04 Tips for building a fire-resistant new house

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Gee now what to poor old Tom and Opera have in common? Magical houses that don't burn. Or simply weren't on the attack list.
 
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Sure, not even those flammable leaves go up. But the houses are gone.

Or how about this magical blue van.

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I dunno. Do we want to waste energy fighting about this?

The van was isolated from any grass and removed far from the structure. Probably, winds were coming down the street, not off the rows of homes burning. I'm sure the van got hot; but not hot enough for the rubber in the tires to catch fire.

And that's a 1960s van. Mostly it's steel inside, with cloth headliner and upholstery. Not the polyester, or plastic dashboards, vinyl airbags tied to explosive charges. New cars are like match heads. Old ones don't burn so well - they're mostly steel.

So, what heat there was resisted the flash point of what flammable compounds were used in the van. There it sits.
 
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