Trump Indictments (NY, GA, Jan 6, etc.)

[searcher]

As of today, it looks as though all the remaining trials are on hold for quite some time. For all I know some may soon be thrown out (of court.)

SCOTUS: - Trump Asks Supremes To Grant Him Complete Immunity

Trump was given some immunity. Once it's posted in a readable way I'll post it unless someone beats me to it.

www.pmbug.com

 

[Joe King]

As of today, it looks as though all the remaining trials are on hold for quite some time. For all I know some may soon be thrown out (of court.)

SCOTUS: - Trump Asks Supremes To Grant Him Complete Immunity

Trump was given some immunity. Once it's posted in a readable way I'll post it unless someone beats me to it.

www.pmbug.com

That's what SHOULD happen when one side uses lawfare in order to commit election interference.

All these charges and trials had all been timed in order to make Trump look as bad as possible prior to the election..

Just using the criminal known as Alvin Bragg as an example of what I am talking about, he could have brought those charges years ago, but chose to wait until now for maximum political benefit of his party. Ie: he wanted to influence the election.

 

[searcher]

Just using the criminal known as Alvin Bragg as an example of what I am talking about, he could have brought those charges years ago, but chose to wait until now for maximum political benefit of his party. Ie: he wanted to influence the election.

I agree about being brought years ago. Should have happened in 2021.

 

[Joe King]

I agree about being brought years ago. Should have happened in 2021.

The only reason they weren't brought then, was that all their prosecuters (including Bragg) declined to prosecute, as they didn't think it was a good case.
....but within a Month of Trump announcing his bid for election, Bragg suddenly changed his mind.

That strongly implies that had Trump not run for office, that the charges would never have been brought. That makes it a political prosecution.

 

[searcher]

That strongly implies that had Trump not run for office, that the charges would never have been brought. That makes it a political prosecution.

Bragg won his cases. They were state (NY) cases.

I was referring to the federal cases. They should have been over and done a while ago. After today's ruling on immunity who knows when, or if, they're ever going to happen.

I spent a lot of time in this thread in the hopes that justice would prevail. Oh well..............onward and upward.

 

[Goldhedge]

 

[Goldhedge]

The rule of law prevails...

 

[Goldhedge]

 

[Joe King]

Bragg won his cases. They were state (NY) cases.

Yea, with a compromised "judge" and tainted jury.

My point was that Bragg could have brought these charges years ago, but chose not to. He only did due to Trump's reelection bid. Ie: he only did it for political influence to help his party.
... but you're ok with it because you appear to hate Trump more than you love your nation.

 

[Goldhedge]

Yea, with a compromised "judge" and tainted jury.

That's not 'winning', it is cheating the system by twisting the law.

That's not lawful. It's law fare. Going after someone just because you have the power and can.

Just be glad our system of jurisprudence isn't all like that, else we'd be a completely different nation.

 

[Joe King]

That's not 'winning', it is cheating the system by twisting the law.

That's not lawful. It's law fare. Going after someone just because you have the power and can.

The democrat party is nothing but a bunch of America hating communist wanna-be's.
.....and anyone supporting them are too.

Just be glad our system of jurisprudence isn't all like that, else we'd be a completely different nation.

They are doing everything in their power to make it be like that.

 

[searcher]

My point was that Bragg could have brought these charges years ago, but chose not to. He only did due to Trump's reelection bid. Ie: he only did it for political influence to help his party.

I've said it before.............all charges lead back to Jan 6th. That said, there is a possibility the NY case(s) may be reversed:

And even in Trump’s New York case — where he was found guilty in May of falsifying records to cover up a hush money payment to a porn star — Trump is reportedly floating a longshot bid to reverse his conviction by citing the immunity decision. In a letter that has not been made public, his lawyers asked the judge in that case to toss out the jury verdict, the New York Times reported Monday evening.

Source: https://www.politico.com/news/2024/07/01/supreme-court-trump-immunity-takeaways-00166182

 

[Joe King]

I've said it before.............all charges lead back to Jan 6th.

What crime did he commit on that day?

Was it when he told people to be peaceful?

Was it when he requested thousands of NG troops?

Was it when he didn't grab the steering wheel in the beast?

The Jan. 6th "committee" has been shown to have been a sham.

Why aren't you mad at Nasty Pelosi for denying the NG request? Why you give her a free pass for her direct involvement that day?

 

[searcher]

What crime did he commit on that day?

Was it when he told people to be peaceful?

Was it when he requested thousands of NG troops?

Was it when he didn't grab the steering wheel in the beast?

The Jan. 6th "committee" has been shown to have been a sham.

Why aren't you mad at Nasty Pelosi for denying the NG request? Why you give her a free pass for her direct involvement that day?

lol Heading into the city. Talk later.

 

[Joe King]

lol Heading into the city. Talk later.

why is that always your excuse whenever you know there isn't a good answer?

Takin' an L yet again?

 

[Voodoo]

Oops now what guys? Oh wait, they've already come out and mentioned the last resort.

Trump Sentencing Delayed Two Months, 'If Such Is Still Necessary' | ZeroHedge

ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero

www.zerohedge.com

Donald Trump's sentencing date has been kicked down the road more than two months - from July 11th to September 18th, 'if such is still necessary.'

 

[searcher]

why is that always your excuse whenever you know there isn't a good answer?

Takin' an L yet again?

Actually, have an elderly (97 yrs. old )relative in a rehab. I go there to visit and help him. Take him the paper and certain mail, bring back dirty clothes and wash them. Take the clothes back, etc. All his friends have passed away. The same with most of his family. I'm the only one locally he has. When it comes to family and friends in need I can be counted on.

After yesterday's visit I decided to make a few pit stops. Had a good time, talked to some people I haven't seen in many moons, had a few beers, no talk about politics or insane news stories. Just real people and fun.

Read through the following two threads and you may get to know a little bit about me.

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COGNITIVE WARFARE AND THE BATTLE TO BE YOU

COGNITIVE WARFARE AND THE BATTLE TO BE YOU March 7, 2022 Dylan Charles, Editor Waking Times “The Master said, He who sets to work on a different strand destroys the whole fabric.” – Confucius, Analects II, 16 The individual is dangerous. Wanting to be left alone is dangerous. Defiance is...

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Ok, now that we have that outta the way................

What crime did he commit on that day?

In my opinion he conspired to overthrow the gov by using people who believed his lies about the election being rigged.

Was it when he requested thousands of NG troops?

This is what he claims. I there any proof?

The Jan. 6th "committee" has been shown to have been a sham.

Not in my opinion. Has this been proven?

Why aren't you mad at Nasty Pelosi for denying the NG request? Why you give her a free pass for her direct involvement that day?

This is what Trump has claimed. Has it been proven?

I think this country needs closure over Jan 6th. Let it play out in a public trial. Have a jury decide. And put it on live tv. Let the entire country (and the world) see it. If a jury decides guilty or innocent after hearing all the evidence so be it. I would accept whatever they decide. It'll be over and America can move on.

 

[Joe King]

This is what he claims. I there any proof?

Yes.

Chairman Loudermilk Publishes Never-Before Released Anthony Ornato Transcribed Interview

U.S. House of Representatives Committee on House Administration

cha.house.gov

Barry Loudermilk (GA-11) released a transcribed interview the January 6 Select Committee conducted with President Trump's former White House Deputy Chief of Staff Anthony Ornato, which shows President Donald Trump pushed for 10,000 National Guard troops to protect the nation’s capital.

The interview also shows White House frustration with slow deployment of assistance

You musta missed that part when you were eating popcorn while hanging on every word that dumb Cheney bitch was lying to you about.
Edited to add: sadly, you drank her Kool-Aid.

Not in my opinion. Has this been proven

They destroyed all their records, that's how much they believed in them. They didn't want anyone seeing how them came to their conclusions.
They also fabricated evidence and intentionally left out exculpatory evidence.
...and that is not merely my opinion, but rather is fact.

This is what Trump has claimed. Has it been proven?

Yes.
Pelosi even admitted it. There's video of her saying as much.
....but I'm sure you missed that too, as the biased msm you watch didn't give it any coverage. They don't want you knowing the full truth.

think this country needs closure over Jan 6th. Let it play out in a public trial.

To do that, you'd have to first start by having a trial hearing the evidence of cheating in the 2020 election.
.....only then could you begin to see if there were any crimes committed on jan 6th. Because if there was cheating, anything happening on jan 6 would have been justified.

In my opinion he conspired to overthrow the gov by using people who believed his lies about the election being rigged.

Your opinion is not proof. Further, your opinion is based on the flawed info that was used as propaganda in order to cause people to feel that way.

You aren't working with a full picture of what happened, due to the fact that you have an extreme bias against Trump, and are clearly eager to believe any negative news about the guy. Be it true or false.

Your bias against him started long before he was ever running for potus the first time.

 

[Goldhedge]

Jack is illegitimate...

 

[Goldhedge]

This is what Trump has claimed. Has it been proven?

Yes, on paper, or at least emails between Pelosi and the WH. Cash Patel said he has the written receipts.

In my opinion he conspired to overthrow the gov by using people who believed his lies about the election being rigged.

Oddly, that's not 'your' opinion, but it IS MSM propaganda AND Pelosi & company repeating it. It's called the wrap up smear.

What your 'opinion' also reveals is that propaganda works!

Remember when Trump was running for POTUS in 2015 and after his rallies his supporters were being attacked by Antifa goons as they left to go home??

Trump supporters are law abiding peaceful citizens not "MAGA Extremists" as the MSM and Joe Biden insist.

Think about it... if they were 'extremists' there would be uprisings before, during, and after Trump rallies. People bring their kids to Trump rallies.

Just as 400 million guns in the hands of Americans are NOT a problem. If they were a problem you would know it by now. These piddly school and barroom shootings would pale in comparison of an all out insurrection.

Jan 6 was an insurrection designed by Pelosi to hide the fact they stole the 2020 election. She needed something that interrupted Congress. Agent provocateurs guided the patriots. FBI on rooftops were shooting tear gas and rubber bullets on the peaceful crowd. That's how you get people riled up in case you didn't know. Also when tear gas goes off people naturally move away from the gas. That causes pushing and shoving.

The so-called 'insurrection' allowed Pelosi to enact parliamentary procedures giving her the ability to suspend the Congress. 6 (or 7) States wanted to contest the ballots and stopped them from testifying thus burying the Nov 3 insurrection via ballots (not votes, but ballots).

Trump using EOs and the military (the calm before the storm) enacted a Continuity of Government plan before Biden took over. That's what Chris Miller was speaking about to Pence - watch below and ask yourself the questions: "What exactly is the Most Complex Military Operation in History? What is he talking about??"

Then spend some time here: https://devolution.link/ (listen, or read) and learn about Continuity of Government. Because this is what is really going on behind the MSM propaganda screen blinding you from seeing.

 

[Goldhedge]

Jill Biden

 

[Goldhedge]

Trump’s Trial Violated Due Process​

He was denied notice of the charges, meaningful opportunity to respond, and proof of all elements.​

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By David B. Rivkin Jr. and Elizabeth Price Foley
Updated June 4, 2024

Whether you love, hate or merely tolerate Donald Trump, you should care about due process, which is fundamental to the rule of law. New York’s trial of Mr. Trump violated basic due-process principles.

“No principle of procedural due process is more clearly established than that notice of the specific charge,” the Supreme Court stated in Cole v. Arkansas (1948), “and a chance to be heard in a trial of the issues raised by that charge, if desired, [is] among the constitutional rights of every accused in a criminal proceeding in all courts, state or federal.” In in re Winship (1970), the justices affirmed that “the Due Process Clause protects the accused against conviction except upon proof beyond a reasonable doubt of every fact necessary to constitute the crime with which he is charged.” These three due-process precepts—notice, meaningful opportunity to defend, and proof of all elements

paywall

https://www.wsj.com/articles/trumps-trial-violated-due-process-76fae047

 

[Goldhedge]

Part 1 – How Did We Get Here?​

Devolution Recap Series - Part 1​

Join Jon Herold as he goes through the original Devolution Series, as read by Patrick Gunnels. Jon provides commentary and takes questions from the locals chat.
avoid intro - start 2 mins in



FYI "Thomas Wictor" is an interesting wack job IMO

Part 2 – The Defense Intelligence Agency and the Defector​

Devolution Recap Series - Part 2​

23 more at link

Home - Devolution by Patel Patriot

Welcome to Patel Patriot’s Devolution Series by me, Patel Patriot. Doing my best to show you how Donald Trump used Devolution to defeat the election theft.

devolution.link

 

[Joe King]

Whether you love, hate or merely tolerate Donald Trump, you should care about due process, which is fundamental to the rule of law. New York’s trial of Mr. Trump violated basic due-process principles.

The deluded ones who hate him don't care. They are party over nation people. All they can see is "get Trump!" They couldn't care less about Trump's Right's as an American. Afatc, he shoudn't have any Rights. They want blood for him having beat their hag. Asking them to consider his Right's and what these kangaroo court trials are doing to America, is asking for the impossible.

 

[searcher]

Just came across my screen:

Judge Cannon dismisses the entire classified documents case.

Judge Cannon Dismisses Mar-A-Lago Case Against Trump

District Judge Aileen Cannon for the Southern District of Florida dismissed the Mar-a-Lago records case against Donald Trump on Monday. Per the order, Cannon dismissed the case after finding that…

talkingpointsmemo.com

 

[searcher]

^^^^^

Judge dismisses classified documents case against Donald Trump​

Jul 15, 2024 #CNN #News

Judge Aileen Cannon has dismissed the classified documents case against Donald Trump. In a ruling, Cannon said the appointment of special counsel Jack Smith violated the Constitution. CNN's Katelyn Polantz and Kristen Holmes report.


10:59

 

[Joe King]

^^^^ That's gonna piss off some people in high places.

She'll on the dems hitlist along with Clarence Thomas.
I hope she has good security.

 

[searcher]

Just came across my screen:

Judge Cannon dismisses the entire classified documents case.

Judge Cannon Dismisses Mar-A-Lago Case Against Trump

District Judge Aileen Cannon for the Southern District of Florida dismissed the Mar-a-Lago records case against Donald Trump on Monday. Per the order, Cannon dismissed the case after finding that…

talkingpointsmemo.com

Straight Down the Middle — Breaking Down the Dismissal of the Trump Documents Prosecution — Ep. 8​

Jul 22, 2024

Was Special Prosecutor Jack Smith unconstitutionally appointed? In this episode of Straight Down the Middle, I break down Judge Cannon's dismissal of the Trump documents case in Florida.


29:26

 

[Goldhedge]

Somebody please explain to Rep. James Clyburn, not the brightest bulb in the House, that I am beating the Biden/Harris Prosecutors, like Deranged Jack Smith, whose case against me in Florida, “the biggest of them all” according to the Radical Left Lunatics, was just “thrown out” as being Unconstitutional. Now it is my time to sue them for illegally breaking into, and raiding, Mar-a-Lago. All of these Biden/Harris cases against me are a Weaponization of Justice against their Political Opponent, Me — Strictly Third World Country. MAGA2024!
DJT

 

[Joe King]

This just gets better and better.

The NY senator who was instrumental in getting the law changed so Trump could be sued by sumdumbitch, is now claiming that the law is unConstitutional.

Why, you might ask, would he do that?

It's because it's now being used against him! Lol




@searcher , how do you think this will play out if the senator is successful in his quest to have the law overturned?

If I were Trump, I'd offer to pay his legal fees for the best appellate lawyers money could buy.
Be a lot cheaper than the $90+ million sumdumbitch is trying to steal from him.

 

[searcher]

@searcher , how do you think this will play out if the senator is successful in his quest to have the law overturned?

lol I'll give you credit, you do have a way with words.

The law.......Adult Survivors Act goes back to 2022.

Adult Survivors Act - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

As to the senator:

New York state senator accused of rape calls Adult Survivors Act unconstitutional - Washington Examiner

New York state Sen. Kevin Parker called the Adult Survivors Act unconstitutional after being accused of rape last November.

www.washingtonexaminer.com

Guess you can't blame the guy. He trying to beat the rap.

As to it being overturned..........I don't think it'll happen.

 

[Joe King]

lol I'll give you credit, you do have a way with words.

I was just explaining what is going on.

The law.......Adult Survivors Act goes back to 2022.

Right. They enacted it in order to allow sumdumbitch to sue Trump.

Guess you can't blame the guy. He trying to beat the rap.

Kinda makes him a hypocrite though.

As to it being overturned..........I don't think it'll happen.

Ya never know, it might.

 

[Voodoo]

lol I'll give you credit, you do have a way with words.

The law.......Adult Survivors Act goes back to 2022.

Adult Survivors Act - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

As to the senator:

New York state senator accused of rape calls Adult Survivors Act unconstitutional - Washington Examiner

New York state Sen. Kevin Parker called the Adult Survivors Act unconstitutional after being accused of rape last November.

www.washingtonexaminer.com

Guess you can't blame the guy. He trying to beat the rap.

As to it being overturned..........I don't think it'll happen.

That sounds like utter BS. So the statute of Limitations has lapsed but you want a special year just cause you feel like it? Lol. And just a year because well I don't know.

 

[Goldhedge]

This just gets better and better.

The NY senator who was instrumental in getting the law changed so Trump could be sued by sumdumbitch, is now claiming that the law is unConstitutional.

Why, you might ask, would he do that?

It's because it's now being used against him! Lol




@searcher , how do you think this will play out if the senator is successful in his quest to have the law overturned?

If I were Trump, I'd offer to pay his legal fees for the best appellate lawyers money could buy.
Be a lot cheaper than the $90+ million sumdumbitch is trying to steal from him.

This is what liberals do NOT understand!

In their quest to go after an innocent man (i.e., making shit up) what they forget is what goes around comes around!

They thought they were being clever...! "We got 'em now!"

There's no law against changing the law (as they did) to go after someone.

Ethical people don't need to change the law to 'fit' their desires.

 

[Joe King]

There's no law against changing the law (as they did) to go after someone.

If it's being changed in order to specifically target a particular person, it IS illegal to change a law.

Now granted, they didn't write the changed law to actually SAY that they changed it to get Trump, but everyone with a pulse knows that was the intent of the change.

 

[searcher]

No clue where this will go.

Chutkan jumpstarts Trump Jan. 6 case, signaling aggressive pace​

Former President Donald Trump’s federal election interference case was put back into the hands of Judge Tanya Chutkan on Friday, and within 48 hours, she had made about a half dozen moves to forward the case along.

Chutkan, an Obama appointee, denied two of Trump’s dismissal requests, set a deadline for a joint report, scheduled a hearing for mid-August, and paused two existing deadlines. The rapid revival did nothing to quell concerns from her critics that she was rushing a case that required, in their view, a more methodical approach.

“Criminal cases usually never move this quickly, especially something of this complexity,” Josh Blackman, a professor at South Texas College of Law Houston, told the Washington Examiner.

Chutkan regained jurisdiction over Trump's case one month after the Supreme Court ruled on July 1 that presidents have some immunity from criminal prosecution. While this is a typical timeline for the high court, it meant Chutkan could see the 119-page ruling but had no ability to act on it until Aug. 2.

More:

MSN

 

[searcher]

Supreme Court rejects Missouri’s request to block Trump’s New York gag order, sentencing - SCOTUSblog

The Supreme Court on Monday turned down a plea from Missouri to block New York from imposing a gag order and sentencing former President Donald Trump in his criminal proceedings there until after the 2024 elections. After a six-week trial, Trump was convicted in May in a New York state court on 3

www.scotusblog.com

 

[searcher]

Trump set to sue DOJ for $100m over Mar-a-Lago raid after classified documents case dismissed​

Donald Trump is set to sue the US Department of Justice for $100m in damages over the 2022 raid of his Mar-a-Lago estate less than a month after his classified documents case was overturned, according to reports.

The FBI’s raid on his Palm Beach, Florida resort on August 8, 2022, resulted in hundreds of pages of classified documents - including in his bedroom - being removed and saw Special Counsel Jack Smith indict the former president on 37 felony counts. Trump pleaded not guilty on all accounts.

Now, Trumps lawyers have argued that the DOJ’s raid was conducted with “clear intent to engage in political persecution,” according to memo first obtained by Fox News.

The filing condemns the alleged condemning the “tortious conduct by the United States against President Trump,” citing intrusion upon seclusion, malicious prosecution, and abuse of process from the raid.

More:

MSN

 

[Goldhedge]

Trump set to sue DOJ for $100m over Mar-a-Lago raid after classified documents case dismissed​

Donald Trump is set to sue the US Department of Justice for $100m in damages over the 2022 raid of his Mar-a-Lago estate less than a month after his classified documents case was overturned, according to reports.

The FBI’s raid on his Palm Beach, Florida resort on August 8, 2022, resulted in hundreds of pages of classified documents - including in his bedroom - being removed and saw Special Counsel Jack Smith indict the former president on 37 felony counts. Trump pleaded not guilty on all accounts.

Now, Trumps lawyers have argued that the DOJ’s raid was conducted with “clear intent to engage in political persecution,” according to memo first obtained by Fox News.

The filing condemns the alleged condemning the “tortious conduct by the United States against President Trump,” citing intrusion upon seclusion, malicious prosecution, and abuse of process from the raid.

More:

MSN

Sending Trump classified documents and then raiding his home... that takes the cake!

It would be like the popo sending a drug shipment to somebody's home and then raiding them the next day.

 

[Voodoo]

Or they just bring them along to the raid and toss them down before arresting you. Happens everyday in commie USSA.