Francis Scott Key Bridge collapses in Baltimore after ship strike

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Video Release: Unified Command divers continue dive operations at the wreckage site of the M/V Dali​

 
They aught to use some of that thermite-cord to cut through the steel girders like they did to bring down the twin towers.
 

Army Corps Announces Timeline to Open the Main Channel | How To Get Cargo Moving Into Baltimore?​

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Ask the Chiefs! | Chief MAKOi and Steam Man Discuss Issues Leading to Dali Losing Power in Baltimore​

Apr 6, 2024

In this episode, Sal Mercogliano - a maritime historian at Campbell University (@campbelledu) and former merchant mariner - highlights two @youtubecreators that provide information regarding MV Dali losing power in Baltimore and its allision with the Francis Scott Key Bridge.


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- What caused the Power Failure : The Dali Incident https://youtu.be/jxeKXjDVqMA?si=xoDbR...
- Dali size containership emergency generator power and steering https://youtu.be/rrf5JLIQ8rs?si=ni_Wk...
- Dali size containership steering system. How it’s designed to not hit Francis Scott key bridge https://youtu.be/JElUSyNIJGo?si=w9b2O...
 
^^^^^^
Here's the vid by Chief Makoi that Sal mentioned in the video above. Been following Makoi for a good while. Always enjoy his vids.

What caused the Power Failure : The Dali Incident

Premiered 4 hours ago

In this episode, I do a bit of Incident Investigation and Root Cause Analysis to find out what could have caused the blackout onboard M/V Dali, which led to the collapse of the Key Bridge in Baltimore.



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Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@ChiefMAKOi/videos
 
$2 to $4 billion in losses...?

I wonder how much a bridge costs these days?
 

Channel Clearing, Unload MV Dali Ship | Baltimore Bridge Collapse​

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APL Qingdao Loses Propulsion While Departing the Port of New York/New Jersey​

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Okay. Co-winky-dinks are unlikely.

How about, copycats? I still believe what the experts say, that hacking the Dali's systems was nearly impossible.

Howzabout, some ship staffed with "sailors" from Spittoon and Trashkanistan, SAW it, and thought, "what a good idea" - or however they'd think it in their favored form of pidgin.

IOW, the first was a legitimate accident; the second, an attempted staged event.
 
Okay. Co-winky-dinks are unlikely.

How about, copycats? I still believe what the experts say, that hacking the Dali's systems was nearly impossible.

Howzabout, some ship staffed with "sailors" from Spittoon and Trashkanistan, SAW it, and thought, "what a good idea" - or however they'd think it in their favored form of pidgin.

IOW, the first was a legitimate accident; the second, an attempted staged event.

I don't believe this for a second. Anything can be hacked despite what the "experts" are claiming. It's a game of cat and mouse with the cyber hackers against the cybersecurity folks. Specifically with the Dali, the navigation systems were connected to some satellite somewhere, right? No reason to think it can't be hacked. No I haven't watched too much tv or Hollywood. I have friends that work in cybersecurity and know just enough to justify what I said in my second sentence here.
 
$2 to $4 billion in losses...?

I wonder how much a bridge costs these days?

Well I tell you what. I just happen to own a few here in southeast Texas and I can be persuaded to part with one. I'll give you a reall good-guy deal on it too. How about the Houston ship channel bridge? I'll sell it to you for the bargain price of $10,000. I know! I know! It's too good to be true. You can't pass this up. Just send $10,000 worth of bitcoin to my wallet address: eruigheruighsilduafhlsdiafhweauifhweilqufhwiauhfuilashfu
and the bridge is yours!
 
I don't believe this for a second. Anything can be hacked despite what the "experts" are claiming.
Without wireless connections?

Inside a ship-sized Faraday cage?

When people take the conspiracy mindset to the absurd, they just discredit themselves. It's why too many midwits still believe in the Magic Jabs, for instance...because too many people who warned them, correctly, just come off as general kooks.
 
Howzabout, some ship staffed with "sailors" from Spittoon and Trashkanistan, SAW it, and thought, "what a good idea" - or however they'd think it in their favored form of pidgin.

IOW, the first was a legitimate accident; the second, an attempted staged event.
Maybe they're 'testing' our defenses? I'm waiting for the dirty bomb floating down the Detroit river scenario. I heard that was a possibility...
 

Divers Central to Key Bridge Salvage, Officials Say​

BALTIMORE, Md. – More than 40 divers are actively working under the surface of the Patapsco River every day to understand and start to remove the haystack of twisted metal on the riverbed after the collapse of the Francis Scott Key Bridge, U.S. Coast Guard commandant Adm. Linda <redacted - see forum guidelines on epithets>an said on Monday.

Above the waterline of the hull of MV Dali, the 940-foot container ship is snarled in the remnants of the bridge, stuck fast to the remaining supports.

“It’s a 940-foot container ship. There was a gas pipeline running underneath the bow of the ship that had to be turned off. There are power lines right over the stern of the ship as they begin to consider how to make the ship lighter so it can be refloated and removed. There’s just a host of complexities around the recovery,” <redacted - see forum guidelines on epithets>an said at the annual Sea Air Space 2024 symposium.

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Baltimore bridge collapse could yield the largest maritime insurance losses​

The Baltimore bridge collapse could cost up to $4 billion in insured losses, which would make it the most expensive incident involving a ship collision for insurers in modern history.

The crash of the Dali container ship into the Francis Scott Key Bridge last month killed six workers and demolished the structure. It wasn’t the deadliest maritime disaster, but the lengthy closure of the Port of Baltimore and larger insurance purchases by shipping companies aiming to protect against supply chain disruptions and global conflicts could send the final tally soaring.

“This is the biggest claim that we’ll likely see in marine insurance,” said Brian Schneider, senior director at Fitch Ratings’ North American insurance rating arm, who expects the final total to come in between $2 to $4 billion in insured losses.

That could make it more expensive than the capsizing of the Costa Concordia in 2012, Schneider said. In that case, a multistory cruise liner carrying more than 4,000 passengers and crew ran aground and capsized off Italy’s west coast, killing 32 people, which ended up costing $2 billion — the costliest maritime disaster so far.

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STUNNING NEWER Key Bridge Collapse Navy Sonar Images Dali​

This update of the salvage operation of the Francis Scott Key Bridge collapse in Baltimore, MD shows more and clearer sonar images released by the US Navy compared to their images from last week, which show the scary conditions where the Key Bridge collapsed after being struck by the MV Dali cargo container ship. The multicolored sections of the collapsed bridge trusses ar made with LIDAR above the water, and sonar below the water.

This imagery was supplied by the U.S. Navy’s Naval Sea Systems Command (NAVSEA) Supervisor of Salvage and Diving (SUPSALV). It shows the wreckage resting at the bottom of the Patapsco River where the Francis Scott Key Bridge once stood. This shows the magnitude of the very difficult and challenging salvage operation ahead. The underwater sonar imaging tool, CODA Octopus, is the primary survey tool used by divers, with visibility clouded to just one to two feet because of the four to five feet of mud and loose bottom of the Patapsco River.

Divers are forced to work in virtual darkness around the collapse of the Key bridge because when lit, their view is similar to driving through a heavy snowfall at night with high-beam headlights on. So murky is the water, divers must be guided via detailed verbal directions from operators in vessels topside who are viewing real-time CODA imagery. No usable underwater video exists of the wreckage, because as one Navy diver stated, “there’s no need to take video of something you can’t even see.”


 

Baltimore bridge collapse could yield the largest maritime insurance losses​

You'd think they would have assessed hazards BEFORE the SHTF... instead they do mop up while attempting to avoid blame.

Where is OSHA when you really need them?

This was hidden in plain sight for all to see had they not been going after businesses for not wearing covid masks and other stupid stuff....

The extra cost of a tugboat escort pales....
 
Insurance has always been a three-card-monte hustle.

What's made it legal, is Regulatory Capture.

Overexposure of insurance companies, is nothing new. Back when I thought life had a different path for me, as a "stringer" newspaper writer...I had to deal with the 1988 drought in Ohio. Weather patterns had altered for the entire growing season - dry spring, summer wet too soon, August dry period came too early, and late-August storms brought needed water at the wrong time - corn came up but pollination times were off, and few ears came out of it.

Most of the farmers, even then, had Crop Insurance. Most of them, even then, borrowed to afford to plant and keep going when the paycheck for a crop was months away. Crop Insurance was to cover this loan cost, in event of weather disaster.

Which happened; and the big crop insurer...I forget the name...filed for bankruptcy.

There is nothing new under the sun. Those who work, learn responsibility early on. It's part of their survival.

Those who arbitrage, play the odds, manipulate money...find that responsible behavior gets in the way of their big returns. Until it catches up.
 

US Army Corps of Engineers Baltimore's Salvage Plan | MV Dali & Francis Scott Key Bridge​

Apr 11, 2024
In this episode, Sal Mercogliano - a maritime historian at Campbell University (@campbelledu) and former merchant mariner - examines the Salvage Plan published by the US Army Corps of Engineers in Baltimore.


18:39

- USACE Baltimore Plan https://twitter.com/USACEBaltimore/st...
 

US Army Corps of Engineers Baltimore's Salvage Plan | MV Dali & Francis Scott Key Bridge​

Apr 11, 2024
In this episode, Sal Mercogliano - a maritime historian at Campbell University (@campbelledu) and former merchant mariner - examines the Salvage Plan published by the US Army Corps of Engineers in Baltimore.


18:39

- USACE Baltimore Plan https://twitter.com/USACEBaltimore/st...

Great video. He covers some important questions that need to be considered for national security.
 

NTSB Focusing on Dali Ship Circuit Breakers | Bridge Collapse​

You'll see updates from the unified command on the current salvage plan to clear the channel and free the stuck MV Dali Ship after it crashed into the Francis Scott Key Bridge in Baltimore, MD. There is also discussion from the NTSB on their investigation and focusing on the Dali ship's circuit breakers.
 

Bridge Collapse Clean-up | Baltimore, Maryland USA | StreamTime LIVE​

 
This one is a bit different. Sal is with a small group talking about different things including the Dali. Worth your time if you've been following the thread. Nothing to see, can listen in one tab, play around the forum in a different tab. Interesting discussion.

Scuttlebutt S03 E01 Sal Mercogliano On Shipping Part 1​

Apr 9, 2024 Podcast Episodes

We're back for another season of SCUTTLEBUTT and we're starting off by sharing a new YouTube channel addiction: What's Going On In Shipping ( / @wgowshipping .

Dr. Sal Mercogliano is a retired merchant mariner and chairman of the history department at Campbell University. In his spare time, he likes to talk about what's happening in the world of shipping.

We had discovered him and reached out to invite him to our podcast so we could talk about shipping and its relation to freedom of the seas, but then a week ago, the MV Dali allision with the Key Bridge in Baltimore really gave us fodder for discussion.

Here's part one of our chat.


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This one is a little on the political side.

Preface:





Peter Zeihan Blames the Jones Act for Why He Doesn't Care about the Key Bridge | Better Call Sal!​

April 14, 2024

In this episode, Sal Mercogliano - a maritime historian at Campbell University (@campbelledu) and former merchant mariner - reacts to Peter Zeihan's video on why the Jones Act makes the Francis Scott Key Bridge collapse in Baltimore less significant.


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- Why I Don't Care About the Fallen Bridge in Baltimore || Peter Zeihan • Why I Don't Care About the Fallen Bri...
- IMF Portwatch Baltimore https://portwatch.imf.org/pages/3ee54...
- Transportation Statistics Annual 2023 https://rosap.ntl.bts.gov/view/dot/72943
 
It looks like legos until you see men standing next to the beams on the ship.
 
It's not the size that matters.

It's the weight. The cranes, on barges, have weight restrictions; and when they get into the concrete roadbed remains, those chunks are gonna be very small.
 
It's not the size that matters. ...
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Largest Section of Bridge to Date Removed​

The Dali collision with the Francis Scott Key Bridge clean up effort made a significant lift of the debris on Sunday. The salvage group Donjon Marine removed the largest section of the bridge to date with the Chesapeake 1000 crane. The Bridge Collapse Site is presenting incredible challenges, but Baltimore Harbor is expected to be reopened by the end of May.https://www.youtube.com/@MinorcanMullet
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